Did an online coach more harm than good?

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3 years ago 02/09/2021 8:26am EST

Hi,

I am 33 and have been running for a few years now. I ran my HM PB 1:20:09 in October 2019. Then I took a short break and decided to kick off a new season, with an experienced online coach.

I was following his training plan for the entire year only worsen my HM time by a whole minute! I was running workouts twice a week regulary, and there was also a lot (about 80 percent) of very, very easy running. Average mileage was about 50 mpw.

The workouts leading to the race were mostly long, ladder and short intervals:

5-4-3k, 4 min break, hard efford

2x7x500m hard efford

8k tempo

8x1k, hard efford

18k progressin run.

He wanted me to run the workouts really hard, as he advocates "polarized training".

The problem is, I started feeling a bit worn a few week weeks before the race.

Before I was "coached", I ran mostly long progression runs, tempos and hill reps and it worked for me!

I am now coming back to my old model a is feels way more enjoyable again.

What's your opinion about it?

3 years ago 02/09/2021 8:29am EST

re: V.O.J.

Was it Jan Svensen? He has a record of online failure.

3 years ago 02/09/2021 8:59am EST

re: V.O.J.

Get on board with the coaching of rojo and JK. They'll coach you to the top.

3 years ago 02/09/2021 10:26am EST

re: pupil3142

pupil3142 wrote:
Was it Jan Svensen? He has a record of online failure.

I lol’d

3 years ago 02/09/2021 2:31pm EST

re: V.O.J.

V.O.J. wrote:
Hi,
I am 33 and have been running for a few years now. I ran my HM PB 1:20:09 in October 2019. Then I took a short break and decided to kick off a new season, with an experienced online coach.
I was following his training plan for the entire year only worsen my HM time by a whole minute! I was running workouts twice a week regulary, and there was also a lot (about 80 percent) of very, very easy running. Average mileage was about 50 mpw.
The workouts leading to the race were mostly long, ladder and short intervals:
5-4-3k, 4 min break, hard efford
2x7x500m hard efford
8k tempo
8x1k, hard efford
18k progressin run.
He wanted me to run the workouts really hard, as he advocates "polarized training".
The problem is, I started feeling a bit worn a few week weeks before the race.
Before I was "coached", I ran mostly long progression runs, tempos and hill reps and it worked for me!
I am now coming back to my old model a is feels way more enjoyable again.
What's your opinion about it?

What you need is the very best online coach you can get!

www.coachjs.se

3 years ago 02/09/2021 2:45pm EST

re: Papageno

Papageno wrote:
V.O.J. wrote:
Hi,
I am 33 and have been running for a few years now. I ran my HM PB 1:20:09 in October 2019. Then I took a short break and decided to kick off a new season, with an experienced online coach.
I was following his training plan for the entire year only worsen my HM time by a whole minute! I was running workouts twice a week regulary, and there was also a lot (about 80 percent) of very, very easy running. Average mileage was about 50 mpw.
The workouts leading to the race were mostly long, ladder and short intervals:
5-4-3k, 4 min break, hard efford
2x7x500m hard efford
8k tempo
8x1k, hard efford
18k progressin run.
He wanted me to run the workouts really hard, as he advocates "polarized training".
The problem is, I started feeling a bit worn a few week weeks before the race.
Before I was "coached", I ran mostly long progression runs, tempos and hill reps and it worked for me!
I am now coming back to my old model a is feels way more enjoyable again.
What's your opinion about it?
What you need is the very best online coach you can get!
www.coachjs.se

You mean a liar, a fraud, a coach with whom athletes regress? Yes, that is you, Jan Stensson.

3 years ago 02/09/2021 3:48pm EST

re: aehhrth

Does this guy actually pick up any posters from letsrun to coach that are actually willing to pay?

3 years ago 02/09/2021 5:07pm EST

re: Genny Cream Ale

Genny Cream Ale wrote:
Does this guy actually pick up any posters from letsrun to coach that are actually willing to pay?

At least two. Both left him very soon after.

3 years ago 02/09/2021 6:22pm EST

re: aehhrth

There are two groups of people on this board.

#1. Those who think JS is a bad coach

#2. JS

3 years ago 02/14/2021 10:45am EST

re: V.O.J.

I recently read an article about the benefits of diet and exercise.

First of all, the lifestyle you choose should be comfortable. Let it be milder, without severe restrictions on calories in the daily menu, but you will keep it much longer. Your goal is a long-term effect, not a hard and short-term one. After a week of hunger strike it is not good to run straight away to eat burgers and chips.

Stay healthy!

3 years ago 02/14/2021 3:34pm EST

re: SouthernFriedRealist

SouthernFriedRealist wrote:
There are two groups of people on this board.
#1. Those who think JS is a bad coach
#2. JS

There are actually three groups of people on the boards.

1. Jealous people that can't stand he is a superior coach compared to themselves.

2. The great majority that doesn't care because we are at LRC.

3. The magnificent magic coach himself and the runners and coaches that knows he is a great coach, honest and a very humble person.

3 years ago 02/14/2021 3:39pm EST

re: Papageno

Papageno wrote:
SouthernFriedRealist wrote:
There are two groups of people on this board.
#1. Those who think JS is a bad coach
#2. JS
There are actually three groups of people on the boards.
1. Jealous people that can't stand he is a superior coach compared to themselves.
2. The great majority that doesn't care because we are at LRC.
3. The magnificent magic coach himself and the runners and coaches that knows he is a great coach, honest and a very humble person.

Why are you talking about yourself in the third person, Jan Stensson?

And this is hilarious!!!!

3. The magnificent magic coach himself and the runners and coaches that knows he is a great coach, honest and a very humble person.

You are an arrogant narcissist, a liar and a crap coach.

You don't know what the words "honest" and "humble" mean.

3 years ago 02/14/2021 3:40pm EST

re: Papageno

The fact that you have to create multiple fake handles to try and get people to talk about you shows that there are in fact, two groups of people on this board.

As I’ve mentioned before, everyone on this board, but you knows you’re a terrible coach. The fact that you have to create fake handles proves it.

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