If only I had hills like Michigan University does.
If only I had hills like Michigan University does.
InterestedGuy wrote:
See title.
What's someone like Hobbs Kessler or Nick Willis doing under Ron?
We have just published a feature by Jonathan Gault on Kessler and Warhurst. In it, we share the final last workout he did before the 3:57.
Warhurst doesn't want to burden Kessler with expectations but admits the obvious, "It looks like he might be the next really good one." Nick Willis compares him to Matthew Centrowitz and Alan Webb.
A sub is required to read it but 100% of subscriptions this week are going to Jonathan in honor of his 30th bday.
https://twitter.com/letsrundotcom/status/1359202213269282819Sub 4:00: Alan Webb and the Quest for the Fastest Mile
Great book.
https://www.amazon.com/Sub-Alan-Webb-Quest-Fastest/dp/1594860564#ace-g9766277718
Great author, wish he wrote more
consider this wrote:
There's a book where a full year of Webb's training under Warhurst is spelled out, written by the same author as Running with the Buffalos. I forgot the title but it wasn't Running with the Wolverines.
Running with the Wolverines might have been more interesting, especially if we're talking about the animal and not the mascot.
rojo wrote:
InterestedGuy wrote:
See title.
What's someone like Hobbs Kessler or Nick Willis doing under Ron?
We have just published a feature by Jonathan Gault on Kessler and Warhurst. In it, we share the final last workout he did before the 3:57.
Warhurst doesn't want to burden Kessler with expectations but admits the obvious, "It looks like he might be the next really good one." Nick Willis compares him to Matthew Centrowitz and Alan Webb.
A sub is required to read it but 100% of subscriptions this week are going to Jonathan in honor of his 30th bday.
https://twitter.com/letsrundotcom/status/1359202213269282819
What’s the workout?
I have to agree. Nick is an extremely down to earth and friendly guy
runthecountry wrote:
The Dirty Duck wrote:
Han Solo, thanks. There are some variations of workouts there that I haven't seen before. Can you fill in a few of the gaps? You may not know or care to take the time to share, which is fine of course. But any additional detail would be MUCH appreciated.
Hills + 3 mile tempo + Hills
- Can you describe the hill portions a bit?
4 mile tempo + 8x200 track
- 200s at mile pace? Recovery?
16x400 with short rest
- @ 5K pace? 30 sec recovery?
4x200 + 3x300 + 2x400 + 1x600 at goal race pace
- recovery?
3x1000 at 5k race pace + 4x400 at mile race pace + 1x1000 AUG
- recovery?
Lots of 300s
- pace and recovery?
2x150 + 200 / 2x150 + 300 / 2x150 + 400
- recovery?
I can't speak too much about the recovery portions aside from the general sense that Ron doesn't push short recoveries down to the specific second, but focuses a little more on running the reps with high quality.
But the hills are easy to find on a map. Arb hill is a 1k winding hill that has gentle portions and moderate portions. Ridgeways are somewhere around 200 meters and relatively gentle - you can really work on uphill turnover. Harvards are also somewhere around 200+ meters but much steeper incline than the other hills. They will kick your ass if you do them right, whether you are in shape or not. Some hill workouts include all three, and some include a mix of other fast stuff plus the hills.
Any idea how fast they are going on these hills? The perceived pace? 1600 meter pace? 800? 400? As fast as they can clip?
runnerdude1111111 wrote:
Any idea how fast they are going on these hills? The perceived pace? 1600 meter pace? 800? 400? As fast as they can clip?
When I ran them, an Arb hill repeat was probably slower than half marathon pace, but the effort was more like 5k-8k effort. Even if I really raced up the hill, I doubt I could run up one time at 5k pace.
Ridgeways felt more like 400 meter repeats, although with less running time. Not sure the exact pace going up... mile race pace, maybe? Probably slower than mile pace, but they felt reasonably quick.
Harvards would feel kind of like the end of an 800 meter race by the time you finished a set of them. Actual pace was probably around 6 minutes/mile (probably a good bit slower than marathon pace for me).
And remember that the hills may be combined with some tempo and/or track work in the same workout. As far as how my intensity on these hills compares with the really fast guys, I imagine sometimes they would run them a little more controlled (I was often the slowest guy in the group as a 4:15ish miler), but other times they would push even harder than than I did.
RIP: D3 All-American Frank Csorba - who ran 13:56 in March - dead
RENATO can you talk about the preparation of Emile Cairess 2:06
Running for Bowerman Track Club used to be cool now its embarrassing
Hats off to my dad. He just ran a 1:42 Half Marathon and turns 75 in 2 months!
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