Luis Grijalva/NAU vs Yared Nuguse/ND @ Silver State Collegiate XC Challenge

real mountin man wrote:

[quote]mount in man wrote:

Utah HS all-star team:

1-3-4-6-10-11-14

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I think Clayson Shumway would emphatically beg to not be included

He does identify more with Colorado, but he did run for Lone Peak his senior year.

seasoned ranker wrote:

the statistician wrote:

I agree, it seems like NAU and BYU will be 1 and 2, but many other teams will be gunning for 3rd. Obviously Notre Dame and Washington, but definitely also Tulsa, Iowa St, and Oklahoma St. Oregon could also potentially be a factor.

Spoiler alert - Oregon won't be a factor.

They have 3 likely all Americans in Teare, Hocker, and Mestler. If they can squeeze a top 50 performance out of Charlie Hunter and a top 100 performance out of another guy- they have a shot at top 5. I'm not saying they will do it, but they could.

the statistician wrote:

seasoned ranker wrote:

Spoiler alert - Oregon won't be a factor.

They have 3 likely all Americans in Teare, Hocker, and Mestler. If they can squeeze a top 50 performance out of Charlie Hunter and a top 100 performance out of another guy- they have a shot at top 5. I'm not saying they will do it, but they could.

I believe he meant in as they aren't competing in cross.

When will altitude training be considered the equivalent to a performance enhancing drug?

Or mechanical shoe doping?

NAU, BYU, Colorado all at altitude. Same goes for the top D2 teams. Altitude combined with track programs that put most of their scholarships into distance makes these “team” XC performances meaningless.

The guy that just broke the d2 5k and 3k records goes to school in Tennessee

The D1 women's 10k record is held by a woman from Iowa who ran for Iowa State. Kurgat won NCAA XC last year running for Iowa State. Morgan McDonald won it at Wisconsin.

All of the race videos are loaded in Flotrack. I haven't listened to the podcast yet to hear what happened with the live stream.

Flotrack fanboy wrote:

All of the race videos are loaded in Flotrack. I haven't listened to the podcast yet to hear what happened with the live stream.

True, but as we speak "not available"

They work for me.

Women's race was fine, Men's still says unavailable

my 3 cents wrote:

When will altitude training be considered the equivalent to a performance enhancing drug?

Or mechanical shoe doping?

NAU, BYU, Colorado all at altitude. Same goes for the top D2 teams. Altitude combined with track programs that put most of their scholarships into distance makes these “team” XC performances meaningless.

What are you saying - that schools located at altitude should be banned from competing?

Although I see it says 547 views as we speak

my 3 cents wrote:

When will altitude training be considered the equivalent to a performance enhancing drug?

Or mechanical shoe doping?

NAU, BYU, Colorado all at altitude. Same goes for the top D2 teams. Altitude combined with track programs that put most of their scholarships into distance makes these “team” XC performances meaningless.

8 of the last 15 team titles have been won by sea-level programs. 11 of the last 15 2nd place teams were sea-level programs.

Is it possible that coaches have a better understanding of altitude in the last 5 years? Maybe, but if you look at the history of NCAA xc, programs tend to grab titles in bunches.

Mestler runs for Oregon ?

Oregon will compete in cross, they're hosting a meet this weekend.

Wow, not one disparaging post about BYU. Do we have some new mods?

my 3 cents wrote:

When will altitude training be considered the equivalent to a performance enhancing drug?

Or mechanical shoe doping?

NAU, BYU, Colorado all at altitude. Same goes for the top D2 teams. Altitude combined with track programs that put most of their scholarships into distance makes these “team” XC performances meaningless.

For sure it is a big advantage aerobically. But you have to give some credit to the schools and coaches for taking advantage strategically. They adapt their training and recruiting, and the schools put money in to the team, I imagine. No foul here.

wunderkind wrote:

Wow, not one disparaging post about BYU. Do we have some new mods?

BYU jokes get so old

Kinda like their team

the statistician wrote:

Oregon will compete in cross, they're hosting a meet this weekend.

Yes they will compete this weekend and PAC12s

But will they compete in Cross Nationals?

I heard rumours they are choosing indoors instead.