There is a Seinfeld episode for everything.
There is a Seinfeld episode for everything.
Hmm, if your work hours are technically 9-5, I don't think it's a violation. Annoying, yes, but if you're expected to be on the clock until 5, it's fair game. I would be more upset if she called a meeting from 5-6. Some weekdays I have needed to tolerate those but on a Friday it would be excessive!
Also, I don't think this person warrants hate or resentment for having an immune condition and needing to stay home to keep herself healthy. I am curious as to why everyone isn't permitted to stay home– that does seem unfair. I am of the opinion that all office work should be remote and anything that isn't actually "essential" (i.e. agricultural work, staffing grocery stores and gas stations, etc.) should be shut down until we see substantial improvement in case numbers, with generous benefit checks going to closed small businesses + everyone who cannot work. If people had been paid to stay home for a few months at the beginning of all this it I'd like to think wouldn't have spiraled as far out of control as it has.
Some people are just clueless. I once had some peon put a meeting on a Friday summer afternoon on my calendar, same day, while I was at my lake house ‘working from home’. I declined the meeting and the joker actually rescheduled it for even later in the day. I actually had to explain to this guy that I wasn’t going to have a meeting because I didn’t want to.
office etiquette wrote:
HM guy wrote:
Not trying to pick a fight, I genuinely would not have known this. If it's a 30 minute meeting at 4pm, you're not delaying the end of the week, right?
A lot of people try and leave a little early on Friday to get an early start on the weekend. It's sort of an unwritten rule not to schedule meetings EOD on Friday.
So you are upset you actually have to be at work the hours you are paid to be at work for?
Suck it up
Meetings aren't work. They're actually the opposite of work while appearing to be work.
I think meetings around lunch hour are evil. Should be at least 1:30p.
4pm, Friday, I can deal with it. I would just half pay attention and browse the web on my phone.
Its a classless move for sure unless its truly a pressing matter. Repay the favor sometime.
I know a guy that holds group meetings on Fri afternoon and then tells his students, have a nice weekend, see you tomorrow.
Good to know. I have meetings at 6 or 7 pm every Friday. 4pm looks pretty early...
lots and lots of little b!Tches on this board. Unless that meeting was two hours long, there's nothing to complain about. If you're working, you're working. If you're not, you're not. Not too complicated.
Now, if the meeting is in conflict with other work that you have scheduled, then by all means decline to attend.
You're either a cube dweller broken the boss or a boss who takes 3 martini lunches while demanding exacting adherence to the rules by his minions.
4pm Friday meetings are bad for morale, and are likely disruptive beyond what you imagine. Of course emergencies occur but if it's scheduled in advance, it ain't an emergency meeting.
At my workplace, first, most work more than 8/40 but they also do it at their lesiure. 7-3, 8-4, 10-6, whatever. Also, leave is much more likely to be taken on a Fri afternoon than at any other time. The point being that Friday at 4pm is usually a ghost town in my office any meeting scheduled then would result in the following responses...
No
F-you
See you Monday
Send me a summary
Have fun by yourself
yjhfh56 wrote:
You're either a cube dweller broken the boss or a boss who takes 3 martini lunches while demanding exacting adherence to the rules by his minions.
Nope. I'm a scientist with a good work ethic. Fortunately, the people I work with are the same.
If you're working with people like the ones you described, and if you view the occasional Friday 4pm meeting as an affront, then maybe you should find other work. Life's way too short to put up with that crap.
"Sorry, that time won't work for me. How about X instead?"
Yes it's a violation. We had a safety manager where I used to work that had weekly Friday safety meetings at 4:30. This was in a manufacturing plant where many of us went in between 6 to 7 in the morning to supervise work orders. We went to the first few and when it became obvious he scheduled them then to basically make it seem like he was a hard worker, we told him we cared about safety but requested he move the meeting. He did, but to this day he's still a jerk.
loverboy wrote:
yjhfh56 wrote:
You're either a cube dweller broken the boss or a boss who takes 3 martini lunches while demanding exacting adherence to the rules by his minions.
Nope. I'm a scientist with a good work ethic. Fortunately, the people I work with are the same.
If you're working with people like the ones you described, and if you view the occasional Friday 4pm meeting as an affront, then maybe you should find other work. Life's way too short to put up with that crap.
You obviously have no family and no life. Emergency meeting? Sure schedule away. I don't care if it's 1 AM - if it's urgent it's urgent.
Recurring meeting? Get over yourself. Your meeting isn't important enough for recurring 4:00 Friday, keyboard warrior.
Safety meetings are usually at 4:20, anyway.
biggerboy13 wrote:
Write to the CEO of this and see who's side they take.
He'd be on the side of the person who knows the difference between whose and who's, ie not you.
hhjjjdhh wrote:
Create a "meeting" in your calendar for 3-5pm every Friday. That way when someone tries to schedule something it looks like you are already busy.
I do this for my afternoon workouts so no one schedules an impromptu meetings for that time.
+1
i do this for all of my workouts too.
suck it up wrote:
40 hours per week is pretty light for a professional job, so honestly I can't see complaining about it in this scenario. If you were coming to the end of a 60 or 80 hour work week, I could understand being exhausted and just saying "F it, I'm ready to be done for the week and I'm not up for one more meeting." But if you're only working 9-5 M-F, just appreciate that you don't have to work very many hours and actually work all of them.
lol, little lap dog trained so well....
I bet you work so good little doggie!! maybe you get a treat?
If that is really your life why don't you try learning a skill and moving to an advanced country with a better quality of life?
loverboy wrote:
yjhfh56 wrote:
You're either a cube dweller broken the boss or a boss who takes 3 martini lunches while demanding exacting adherence to the rules by his minions.
Nope. I'm a scientist with a good work ethic. Fortunately, the people I work with are the same.
If you're working with people like the ones you described, and if you view the occasional Friday 4pm meeting as an affront, then maybe you should find other work. Life's way too short to put up with that crap.
Ok Cubie, get to your meeting like a good yes-boy. And bring cookies for everyone.
I'll be either at the gym, bar, or golf course if anyone needs me.
hank jr wrote:
hhjjjdhh wrote:
Create a "meeting" in your calendar for 3-5pm every Friday. That way when someone tries to schedule something it looks like you are already busy.
I do this for my afternoon workouts so no one schedules an impromptu meetings for that time.
this guy knows what's up.
Genius. Never thought of this so thanks for typing it out.