We're going to be at 3-400 daily COVID deaths in the US by June or July, which is probably about what we're losing by reasons attributed to lockdowns or economic maladies.
Regardless, once things settle down in a few months it's game on.
Florida would be a great decision - other than for the marathon. North Dakota maybe?
Cool Colorado Rain wrote:
Disperse the Olympics: track in Tokyo, wrestling in Rome, sailing in Sydney, gymnastics in Orlando, etc.
You're welcome.
YES!! The world Olympics, 2021.
There should be an olympic city in Switzerland that hosts summer and winter all the time. But again IOC would not get their bribes to do that. #45 in FL have anything to do with this rumor?
I'm telling you that Indianapolis is the place to do it.
They regularly host HUGE events like the Indy 500 and have the capacity to do so. A very nice International airport. Scads of hotel rooms.
Already have a Mondo track and stadium. Another soccer stadium nearby. A natatorium, plus one of the local high school pools has been used for Olympic trials, so it's good. Rowing course exists on Eagle Creek. Golf? Got it. Lucas Oil field or Bankers Life fieldhouse for basketball, gymanstics, etc. Or even the convention center. Already has a marathon course laid out.
Bette weather. No hurricanes. Do it!
MeHereYouWhere?! wrote:
What is the motivation now besides bragging rights?
I think that actually plays a role here. Perhaps the CFO was just shooting his mouth off about Theme Parks, but the advertising the Disney folks would get out of having an Opening Ceremony at Epcot with a torch by that big reflecting pool with the golf ball dome in the background? Priceless.
Host of the Olympics when it was almost cancelled? Heroes of the world to demonstrate a recovery from the pandemic? This is stuff that marketing guys don’t dare to dream about.
Could it be a huge disaster? Sure. But Disney is hurting bad financially and laying people off from their theme parks. They also happen to own a major broadcast network which is ordinarily locked out of Olympic coverage due to their contract with NBC. Someone may smell opportunity.
slomo wrote:
And probably shouldn't import more covid into this country if you want normal marathons after the summer.
Wtf??? You're talking about f*cking end of summer marathons? Lmao who gives a f*ck?! We're talking about the f*cking Olympics lol. Who gives two sh!ts about late summer marathon normalcy? We should do whatever it takes to have the Olympics and if afterwards that means zero late summer f*cking marathons then OK.
They need to just have it every other time in the US. Stop going to these countries where you have to build everything and go to places that already have the sh!t.
Man Overboard wrote:
Precious Roy wrote:
Also, Florida in July is in THE MIDDLE OF FREAKING HURRICANE SEASON. And even if they luck out and get the games in without the threat of a hurricane, the weather in Florida in July is horrible.
The chance of a significant hurricane hitting central Fl in July is pretty low. Yes technically it is hurricane season, but the big ones normally won't ramp up until late August.
The average temperature in Central FL is only 2 degrees F degrees warmer than Atlanta, which hosted in 1996.
If Orlando held the games in July the expected average temperature would be identical to the average for August in Athens Greece, where the summer games were hosted in 2004.
So weather should not be a deal-breaker.
There were already 9 named storms by the end of July last year. Hurricane season is changing rapidly due to global warming. During a non-pandemic year, you could roll the dice on having to evacuate an entire OG. But during a pandemic, taking that risk is completely reckless as it would completely bust any effort to bubble the games and expose millions.
I am from Atlanta and spent a few summers in Florida in July. Once you get away from the ocean, the heat and humidity in Florida are way worse than Atlanta. If you are going to do a last minute fire drill on the Olympic Games, you should at lest pick a location that will have reasonable weather.
Slartibartfast wrote:
Northeasterner wrote:
There are no spaces where you can safely house that many people, all of whom have come from far away on airplanes.
FWIW, I agree with you. However, on a whim, I googled the hotel capacity at the Walt Disney World complex and realized that I had stunningly underestimated the capacity of The Mouse. They have 36,000 rooms on property. If you took 20,000 of them, and then maybe housed media at some of the nearby resorts, I actually think you could come close to having a decent bubble.
The fan situation would be way more challenging. But I think you could house the athletes and ancillary folk with relative ease, as the resorts are designed to be closed systems anyway.
No idea of venues in and around Orlando, though. I suspect you’d have to move a lot of things indoors due to the heat and constant mid-afternoon thunderstorms in July, and you would need to get rolling in things like a white water kayak venue immediately.
Have you been to Orlando? Disney is actually in Lake Buena Vista, which is a bit South of Orlando. Disney has a small fraction of the available lodging in Orlando. Orlando is #2 in the country behind only Las Vegas for number of hotel rooms. I’m not sure if that counts the massive number of timeshares available. Not to mention Tampa is only a 90 minute drive to Disney.
Again, I don’t think they could put the logistics together in 6 months, but Orlando and Disney could handle it.
Looks like Florida has nipped this thing in the bud.
The host country gets to add a sport. Shuffleboard anyone?
Nice, Malmo!
wejo wrote:
Florida has offered to host the Olympics this year. This isn't BS. The CFO of the state sent a letter to Thomas Bach, the head of the IOC, saying there still is time to move to the Olympics to Florida.
For those of us who want to have an Olympics I think this can only help the Olympics being held this year.
Before I wrote my editorial that we published today advocating for the Olympics to be held this year, I discussed with a few people "Could you move them somewhere else as a last resort?" I said "what about Florida and Disney" as there are 30,000 hotel rooms just at the Disney property and they have a lot of sports facilities. The consensus was it wasn't feasible.
Now it looks like I'm not the only person who thinks Florida could be an emergency host. And if the state gets behind the big it isn't just a pipe dream.
Having said that I don't want to see the Olympics moved from Tokyo but I think this will put some pressure on Tokyo to come up with a plan for the Olympics. Florida has made the decision as a state to live with the virus so it is willing to take on more risk and tourists. But a little external pressure and competition can I think only prompt Tokyo to think of ways it can host the Games instead of not host them. The Japanese people might start thinking of why they would want to hold as safe a Games as possible instead of not holding them. This ultimately comes down to public perception and public will.
I'm sure some people might say "oh the arrogant Americans with all their covid deaths shouldn't offer to host the Games." I can see how that sentiment might exist, but I still don't think this in anyway hurts the chances of their being a Games this year. Competition generally is a good thing.
Like the Rose Bowl said it wouldn't have fans this year and next thing you knew it was moved to Texas and was a success.
I still hope the Games are in Tokyo.
Article on Florida:
https://news.yahoo.com/florida-offers-host-olympics-tokyo-231126044.htmlMy editorial:
https://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=10403942
Yes. We need the olympics. I do not care whether it is Tokyo or Florida.
#KeepTheOlympics
#DontBowToCovid
#HumanityIsBetterWithTheOlympics
Precious Roy wrote:
Man Overboard wrote:
The chance of a significant hurricane hitting central Fl in July is pretty low. Yes technically it is hurricane season, but the big ones normally won't ramp up until late August.
The average temperature in Central FL is only 2 degrees F degrees warmer than Atlanta, which hosted in 1996.
If Orlando held the games in July the expected average temperature would be identical to the average for August in Athens Greece, where the summer games were hosted in 2004.
So weather should not be a deal-breaker.
There were already 9 named storms by the end of July last year. Hurricane season is changing rapidly due to global warming. During a non-pandemic year, you could roll the dice on having to evacuate an entire OG. But during a pandemic, taking that risk is completely reckless as it would completely bust any effort to bubble the games and expose millions.
I am from Atlanta and spent a few summers in Florida in July. Once you get away from the ocean, the heat and humidity in Florida are way worse than Atlanta. If you are going to do a last minute fire drill on the Olympic Games, you should at lest pick a location that will have reasonable weather.
I think given the choice, an Olympic caliber athlete would choose to bear the humidity rather than have their entire life’s work go for nothing and not compete at all.
Humidity? Hahahahaha..........
wejo wrote:
Florida has offered to host the Olympics this year. This isn't BS. The CFO of the state sent a letter to Thomas Bach, the head of the IOC, saying there still is time to move to the Olympics to Florida.
For those of us who want to have an Olympics I think this can only help the Olympics being held this year.
Before I wrote my editorial that we published today advocating for the Olympics to be held this year, I discussed with a few people "Could you move them somewhere else as a last resort?" I said "what about Florida and Disney" as there are 30,000 hotel rooms just at the Disney property and they have a lot of sports facilities. The consensus was it wasn't feasible.
Now it looks like I'm not the only person who thinks Florida could be an emergency host. And if the state gets behind the big it isn't just a pipe dream.
Having said that I don't want to see the Olympics moved from Tokyo but I think this will put some pressure on Tokyo to come up with a plan for the Olympics. Florida has made the decision as a state to live with the virus so it is willing to take on more risk and tourists. But a little external pressure and competition can I think only prompt Tokyo to think of ways it can host the Games instead of not host them. The Japanese people might start thinking of why they would want to hold as safe a Games as possible instead of not holding them. This ultimately comes down to public perception and public will.
I'm sure some people might say "oh the arrogant Americans with all their covid deaths shouldn't offer to host the Games." I can see how that sentiment might exist, but I still don't think this in anyway hurts the chances of their being a Games this year. Competition generally is a good thing.
Like the Rose Bowl said it wouldn't have fans this year and next thing you knew it was moved to Texas and was a success.
I still hope the Games are in Tokyo.
Article on Florida:
https://news.yahoo.com/florida-offers-host-olympics-tokyo-231126044.htmlMy editorial:
https://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=10403942
Florida....LOL
Kanye West wrote:
Marathons in Florida in July-August, you guys really DO hate black people.
This made me chuckle.
The CFO of Florida gets to make this decision all by himself?
That does not sound right. Did he consult with the Governor, the legislature, or the people of the State?
If the Republican controlled government of Florida forces the Olympics on the citizens of the state, that will be worse than any form of socialism they irresponsibly claimed the Democrats supported.
Remember when Colorado voters rejected Denver as host to the 1976 Winter Olympics by overwhelmingly voting against a bond issue to fund those games? That was democracy at work.
The people of Japan, Florida or wherever should decide whether or not to host the Olympics.
The thought of Kipchige and his squad walking 20-deep into a Hooters in (like) Cocoa Beach (or something) made me chuckle; but that laugh wouldn’t be worth the possible Olympic village COVID outbreak, Rio-esque marathon conditions and humidity overload. If it were in the late summer, and everyone quarantined properly, why not do it somewhere desolate, COVID-responsible and weather-friendly? The difficulty would be finding a place like that with a world-class track, but it could always be built.
In America: Maine?
In Oceania: New Zealand?
Europe: Norway, Finland?
In Asia: ?
Africa:?
Desantis for President
+1
RIP: D3 All-American Frank Csorba - who ran 13:56 in March - dead
RENATO can you talk about the preparation of Emile Cairess 2:06
Running for Bowerman Track Club used to be cool now its embarrassing
Hats off to my dad. He just ran a 1:42 Half Marathon and turns 75 in 2 months!
Great interview with Steve Cram - says Jakob has no chance of WRs this year