Vaccinated people MAY STILL BE SPREADERS

clown world out there wrote:

We’re going to have a bunch of vaccinated people running around celebrating their freedom and spreading the virus just like those spring breakers in March. And you better believe they’ll be deniers too, even if evidence shows vaccinated people can spread it, vaccinated people will deny or ignore this info

I had covid in December. So in theory I can't catch or spread it, at least for a while. I'm still wearing a mask in public, working from home, doing one big grocery trip instead of multiple, etc.

Maybe not everybody will be an inconsiderate jerk like you're suggesting. "In theory" can't spread it leaves the small chance that i can. That's enough to keep me doing these pretty minor inconveniences until most people are vaccinated or had the chance to be and passed it up. That's probably going to be this fall. I'll suck it up, whatever.

clown world out there wrote:

Seriously when will this train wreck pandemic end? We’re going to have a bunch of vaccinated people running around celebrating their freedom and spreading the virus just like those spring breakers in March. And you better believe they’ll be deniers too, even if evidence shows vaccinated people can spread it, vaccinated people will deny or ignore this info

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55784199

It all starts at the top. Biden’s leadership during this crisis has been abysmal. During his short time in office we’ve already seen a million + new COVID cases in the US.

energeticlotuseater wrote:

clown world out there wrote:

Seriously when will this train wreck pandemic end? We’re going to have a bunch of vaccinated people running around celebrating their freedom and spreading the virus just like those spring breakers in March. And you better believe they’ll be deniers too, even if evidence shows vaccinated people can spread it, vaccinated people will deny or ignore this info

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55784199

It all starts at the top. Biden’s leadership during this crisis has been abysmal. During his short time in office we’ve already seen a million + new COVID cases in the US.

Your efforts at trolling are abysmal. Do you really think anyone is so stupid as to fall for this? Really?

Just change your handle. This one is beyond repair.

yes yes yes wrote:

energeticlotuseater wrote:

It all starts at the top. Biden’s leadership during this crisis has been abysmal. During his short time in office we’ve already seen a million + new COVID cases in the US.

Your efforts at trolling are abysmal. Do you really think anyone is so stupid as to fall for this? Really?

Just change your handle. This one is beyond repair.

Mr. Biden held a super spreader event (his inauguration) in the height of a pandemic. 150 national guards troops came down with COVID right after this event & God only knows how many people they spread it to in their private lives. You call this responsible leadership? How many people had to get sick, or even die, to feed Mr.Biden’s ego?

Oh bore off .

When youre vaccinated that's it . Stop being bitter others have more freedom than you .

energeticlotuseater wrote:

yes yes yes wrote:

Your efforts at trolling are abysmal. Do you really think anyone is so stupid as to fall for this? Really?

Just change your handle. This one is beyond repair.

Mr. Biden held a super spreader event (his inauguration) in the height of a pandemic. 150 national guards troops came down with COVID right after this event & God only knows how many people they spread it to in their private lives. You call this responsible leadership? How many people had to get sick, or even die, to feed Mr.Biden’s ego?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN29R2N2

Ask yourself why the national guard needed to be there in the first place.

dumbdumbalert wrote:

energeticlotuseater wrote:

Mr. Biden held a super spreader event (his inauguration) in the height of a pandemic. 150 national guards troops came down with COVID right after this event & God only knows how many people they spread it to in their private lives. You call this responsible leadership? How many people had to get sick, or even die, to feed Mr.Biden’s ego?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN29R2N2

Ask yourself why the national guard needed to be there in the first place.

If they just did the inauguration virtually from an undisclosed location they wouldn’t have had to be there.

It goes on and on.

energeticlotuseater wrote:

yes yes yes wrote:

Your efforts at trolling are abysmal. Do you really think anyone is so stupid as to fall for this? Really?

Just change your handle. This one is beyond repair.

Mr. Biden held a super spreader event (his inauguration) in the height of a pandemic. 150 national guards troops came down with COVID right after this event & God only knows how many people they spread it to in their private lives. You call this responsible leadership? How many people had to get sick, or even die, to feed Mr.Biden’s ego?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN29R2N2

If they already tested positive for it, they had it before the event. And the testing allowed for the to quarantine and not spread it. Your attempt to blame Biden is both predictable and predictably weak.

Those is some embarrassingly bad schtick. When your trolling is far even from the pathetic level of unkle and allen..... Maybe think about a new career?

There are many responsible people who, being vaccinated, will wear masks and do other procedures until almost all people are healthy (I know such people)

But there will always be others who are sick and will go into crowds of people because they don't care about the people around them.

It all depends on the person, not on whether they are vaccinated or not.

@energetic wrote:

energeticlotuseater wrote:

Mr. Biden held a super spreader event (his inauguration) in the height of a pandemic. 150 national guards troops came down with COVID right after this event & God only knows how many people they spread it to in their private lives. You call this responsible leadership? How many people had to get sick, or even die, to feed Mr.Biden’s ego?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN29R2N2

If they already tested positive for it, they had it before the event. And the testing allowed for the to quarantine and not spread it. Your attempt to blame Biden is both predictable and predictably weak.

This makes Biden’s negligence even more breathtaking. You’re saying Biden put COVID infected national guard troops around previously healthy national guard troops who in turn probably infected their families and friends when they returned to private life the next day.

Who knows how many people are now sick and potentially how many lives are going to be lost due to this one super spreader event.

Hi rojo!

Dwight shultz wrote:

Oh bore off .

When youre vaccinated that's it . Stop being bitter others have more freedom than you .

Sorry, this isn't correct. Not trying to argue, just want to help everyone understand.

We tend to think of a vaccine as providing complete immunity against a particular pathogen. NONE of the currently available vaccines do this.

The covid vaccines provide an opportunity for your immune system to prepare ahead of time, so that your likelihood of dying or getting very sick is greatly lessened - if and when you get covid.

These vaccines DO NOT stop you from getting covid. They DO NOT stop you from spreading covid to others if and when you get covid (although you may be less likely to spread it).

Now you know. And GI Joe says knowing is half the battle!

I echo this, and I too have balls, unlike the OP, who apparently just has a hole where his manhood should be.

I love how the general public never bothered to learn anything about viruses until the past year. Our scientifically ignorant nation.

I read that they don't know if it inhibits transmission. Apparently it is supposed to lessen the effect of severe symptoms. I just see this as a morale boost in which big pharma makes lots of $$$.

The biggest problem right now is that the public is accepting a new normal level of transmission after each surge such that the next surge will be even bigger than the last one. Six months ago 100k cases nationally in the US was unthinkable. Now, that will be seen as a success with states loosening restrictions in response (even CA is rumored to be considering ending lockdown as soon as this week).

The next big surge will be the worst one of them all because it will be due to the UK and other highly contagious variants taking over (CA may have its own variant). We are about 6-8 weeks away from these variants taking over based on the timelines observed in the UK and other places. If the level of infection is still high, the new variants will cause cases to explode in a way that will make the winter surge look small in comparison.

Worse still is that the SA variant has been confirmed to be an escape variant and it is suspected that the Brazil variant is also an escape variant. The SA variant did not trigger an immune response from blood samples taken from people who had COVID 19 antibodies. These variants are moving much faster than anyone expected.

100 vaccines in 100 days is way too slow. That goal was set before the variants because prevalent. There is no reason why we cannot triple that goal. We need to suspend all patents for vaccines and use the defense production act to require labs to shift production to the vaccine.

We need to use the defense production act to get high quality N95 masks into everyone's hands. Too many people are going around with inferior quality cloth masks. The more contagious variant makes mask quality critical.

With spring coming, we need to be pragmatic about lockdown rules. Indoor dining and bars should be banned nationwide. They are clearly where people are transmitting the virus. But outdoor dining and bars should be allowed with social distancing rules to keep people spread out. A significant factor in the fall/winter surge was people having small indoors gatherings instead of going to restaurants and bars. It is better to have people gathering outdoors than indoors.

Without a massive push to vaccinate, mask and socially distance, we could see a variant push a massive surge in cases in late March to April. This will be a very difficult time because many people will have seasonal allergies which may keep people from realizing they have COVID 19 until it is too late.

Previous threads have covered this. There is growing evidence that the vaccines will reduce transmission, probably by a lot, but it has not been studied as a primary data point yet.