Biden says nothing can change the trajectory of Covid pandemic over the next several months

Jimmio wrote:

energeticlotuseater wrote:

Got to love two people just telling each other how smart they are.

Jealous much? You were not one of the smart or honest kids.

I'm guessing you were the one getting swirlied by the teachers in high school.

Harambe wrote:

which one is lying wrote:

Yep, death rates, new cases, all the numbers we've freaked out about and blamed on Trump don't matter anymore! Might as well shut down Worldometer. Of course Trump gets zero credit for several vaccines produced at a schedule the press said would "require a miracle" but we're supposed to credit Joe for continuing the deployment of the vaccine.

You know Trump isn't president anymore? Sorry to break it to you. He lost

I'm quoting this every time you mention Trump from now on.

Jimmio* wrote:

which one is lying wrote:

Yep, presidents should get credit where it's due and not where it isn't due. Sorry that bothers you.

You are not bright enough to engage in this discussion.

You started this discussion with me, buddy. Don't be upset that you got schooled. You don't challenge Michael Jordan to a 1-on-1, and then after he beats you, say "you are not good enough to play this game." That's what you're doing.

Paradoxical wrote:

Harambe wrote:

You know Trump isn't president anymore? Sorry to break it to you. He lost

I'm quoting this every time you mention Trump from now on.

This. And yes I can tell Trump isn't president anymore, because suddenly deaths and cases "don't matter" anymore.

Which one is lying? That is a nicer user name as you are implicitly confessing to being duplicitous in every post you make. IF your poor self esteem is raised by living in your delusions that is all well and good but you are a candidate to end up in a psychiatric facility. I understand that this is likely a best case scenario for you and I just hope you don’t shoot some place up first.

I am Sam wrote:

which one is lying wrote:

Yep, presidents should get credit where it's due and not where it isn't due. Sorry that bothers you.

Trump did not expedite the vaccines, hate to break that to you. There are several vaccines, across the world that collaborated and competed to bring it to market quickly. All countries loosened their requirements.

Forbes magazine notes how Trump declared that he was responsible for the vaccines, though they reach a very different conclusion:

"The evidence shows Donald Trump had no role in creating the vaccines to fight Covid-19. There is nothing in the record that warrants him taking “credit” for the vaccines. A review of events shows immigrants and immigrant-led companies created the vaccines."

Yet another lie is one vast string of lies.

which one is lying wrote:

2600 bro wrote:

Biden's first 100 days will 100% judged on how much we increase our vaccination rates. That is all that matters.

Yep, death rates, new cases, all the numbers we've freaked out about and blamed on Trump don't matter anymore! Might as well shut down Worldometer. Of course Trump gets zero credit for several vaccines produced at a schedule the press said would "require a miracle" but we're supposed to credit Joe for continuing the deployment of the vaccine.

Bro, check the news. Save yourself the embarrassment.

Uninformed guesses are NEVER a good idea folks.

seattle prattle wrote:

I am Sam wrote:

Trump did not expedite the vaccines, hate to break that to you. There are several vaccines, across the world that collaborated and competed to bring it to market quickly. All countries loosened their requirements.

Forbes magazine notes how Trump declared that he was responsible for the vaccines, though they reach a very different conclusion:

"The evidence shows Donald Trump had no role in creating the vaccines to fight Covid-19. There is nothing in the record that warrants him taking “credit” for the vaccines. A review of events shows immigrants and immigrant-led companies created the vaccines."ut

Yet another lie is one vast string of lies.

Yeahhh, no that's 100% false. The Trump admin's Operation Warp Speed that funded Pfizer's production of the vaccine is what expedited the process and brought us the fastest vaccine in history. I don't know what is so hard about giving credit where it is due?

seattle prattle wrote:

I am Sam wrote:

Trump did not expedite the vaccines, hate to break that to you. There are several vaccines, across the world that collaborated and competed to bring it to market quickly. All countries loosened their requirements.

Forbes magazine notes how Trump declared that he was responsible for the vaccines, though they reach a very different conclusion:

"The evidence shows Donald Trump had no role in creating the vaccines to fight Covid-19. There is nothing in the record that warrants him taking “credit” for the vaccines. A review of events shows immigrants and immigrant-led companies created the vaccines."

Yet another lie is one vast string of lies.

Everyone knows Trump created Operation Warp Speed which helped several companies develop vaccines on a record timeline. Denying this just reveals how partisan and sour grapes you are. Gotta do better than that.

Paradoxical wrote:

seattle prattle wrote:

Forbes magazine notes how Trump declared that he was responsible for the vaccines, though they reach a very different conclusion:

"The evidence shows Donald Trump had no role in creating the vaccines to fight Covid-19. There is nothing in the record that warrants him taking “credit” for the vaccines. A review of events shows immigrants and immigrant-led companies created the vaccines."ut

Yet another lie is one vast string of lies.

Yeahhh, no that's 100% false. The Trump admin's Operation Warp Speed that funded Pfizer's production of the vaccine is what expedited the process and brought us the fastest vaccine in history. I don't know what is so hard about giving credit where it is due?

WRONG!

From the Chicago Tribune: "Pfizer notably did not accept government money to develop, test or expand manufacturing capacity under Trump’s Operation Warp Speed initiative to quickly find a vaccine and treatments for the disease sweeping the country.

In fact, Pfizer partnered with the vaccine’s original developer, Germany’s BioNTech, in March and the following month announced the first human study in Germany. The White House announced Operation Warp Speed in May."

Maybe you meant Germany should take credit for the vaccine?

https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-nw-coronavirus-vaccine-fact-check-20201113-pkzbkcfd5bcalpgkvbavqfi5iq-story.html

seattle prattle wrote:

Paradoxical wrote:

Yeahhh, no that's 100% false. The Trump admin's Operation Warp Speed that funded Pfizer's production of the vaccine is what expedited the process and brought us the fastest vaccine in history. I don't know what is so hard about giving credit where it is due?

WRONG!

From the Chicago Tribune: "Pfizer notably did not accept government money to develop, test or expand manufacturing capacity under Trump’s Operation Warp Speed initiative to quickly find a vaccine and treatments for the disease sweeping the country.

In fact, Pfizer partnered with the vaccine’s original developer, Germany’s BioNTech, in March and the following month announced the first human study in Germany. The White House announced Operation Warp Speed in May."

Maybe you meant Germany should take credit for the vaccine?

https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-nw-coronavirus-vaccine-fact-check-20201113-pkzbkcfd5bcalpgkvbavqfi5iq-story.html

In terms of owning a poster this one is absolutely fantastic.

???

People stop making uninformed guesses.

seattle prattle wrote:

Paradoxical wrote:

Yeahhh, no that's 100% false. The Trump admin's Operation Warp Speed that funded Pfizer's production of the vaccine is what expedited the process and brought us the fastest vaccine in history. I don't know what is so hard about giving credit where it is due?

WRONG!

From the Chicago Tribune: "Pfizer notably did not accept government money to develop, test or expand manufacturing capacity under Trump’s Operation Warp Speed initiative to quickly find a vaccine and treatments for the disease sweeping the country.

In fact, Pfizer partnered with the vaccine’s original developer, Germany’s BioNTech, in March and the following month announced the first human study in Germany. The White House announced Operation Warp Speed in May."

Operation Warp Speed helped with clinical trials and ramping up supply of vaccines including Pfizer's. Educate yourself.

Paradoxical wrote:

Harambe wrote:

You know Trump isn't president anymore? Sorry to break it to you. He lost

I'm quoting this every time you mention Trump from now on.

Sure, next time I mad-post and try to restore credibility to a president who forfeited the entire government to the Dems in 4 years, go ahead :).

Anytime someone breathlessly defends Trump it only helps the Dems. Carry on!

^^ point is to start thinking of the country as a team, we need to stop thinking of us against them. I hope those here hear the message to give this administration a chance to lead us out of this thing, but to do it well and as fast as possible, we need to stop thinking about what side we're on. This goes for me as well.

seattle prattle wrote:

^^ point is to start thinking of the country as a team, we need to stop thinking of us against them. I hope those here hear the message to give this administration a chance to lead us out of this thing, but to do it well and as fast as possible, we need to stop thinking about what side we're on. This goes for me as well.

hey, didn't intend a buzz-kill or nothing.

Go ahead, resume hating on eachother ....

seattle prattle wrote:

seattle prattle wrote:

^^ point is to start thinking of the country as a team, we need to stop thinking of us against them. I hope those here hear the message to give this administration a chance to lead us out of this thing, but to do it well and as fast as possible, we need to stop thinking about what side we're on. This goes for me as well.

hey, didn't intend a buzz-kill or nothing.

Go ahead, resume hating on eachother ....

I'm waiting for you to acknowledge my last post two above yours. Crickets.

Somehow everything Coronavirus related was Trump's fault just months ago. Now Biden is saying the nothing can be done to stop it....so basically it was not Trump's fault.

which one is lying wrote:

seattle prattle wrote:

hey, didn't intend a buzz-kill or nothing.

Go ahead, resume hating on eachother ....

I'm waiting for you to acknowledge my last post two above yours. Crickets.

I don't know, maybe they did ramp up production. It doesn't matter to me in that I have all the evidence i need that in the overall execution of pandemic response, the last administration did poorly. It's the whole plan. And their track record speaks for itself.

But more importantly, I am more concerned with the road ahead than the rear view mirror view.

I'd prefer to ease up on the divisive stuff.

seattle prattle wrote:

which one is lying wrote:

I'm waiting for you to acknowledge my last post two above yours. Crickets.

I don't know, maybe they did ramp up production. It doesn't matter to me in that I have all the evidence i need that in the overall execution of pandemic response, the last administration did poorly. It's the whole plan. And their track record speaks for itself.

But more importantly, I am more concerned with the road ahead than the rear view mirror view.

I'd prefer to ease up on the divisive stuff.

* let me rephrase that. I think we need to do better and can do better. And that is only going to happen by not making this a partisan issue.