Ole Miss posted video of tempo 8 and 5 mile run but it was more like a race

Probably the typical who brag about their great workouts and complain about their race times as if they're somehow underperforming excessively. Cappin all the way.

Also guys are being dropped and clearly hurting, but acting like they are running easy for the camera on their long run. EASY? If it was, the whole team would be together, not all spread out.I have only watched two videos, but have already seen enough of trash talking and runners running out of their proper training zones to see enough. Don't care what anyone says, their current fitness is not equal or anywhere close to long run places of 5:20 or 5:30 on long runs. That is WAY to fast.!And don't get me started on the tempo, actually that could be a PB effort for a lot of the women.

LINK???

Dennis the Constitutional Peasant wrote:

LINK???

TT or Tempo wrote:

For starters, the women ran a PR at Louisville of 17 low all the way to 17:40 on that fast course for 5k and a 20:30 6k pr, but run 5:50 and 5:40s on a 5 mile temp? That's a race, not a tempo. In fact a lot of their videos appear to be race pace, possibly showing off for the video. The men are in the same boat, as some of their guys run 24 high to 25 for 8k during cross country, but pop along on an 8 mile temp a 5:20 to sub 5. That is a race! Or certainly not a temp! Unless they run a 4:20 pace for 15 miles or faster, they have no business running 5:30 on down on a 15 mile long run. That's not anywhere close to the proper pace based off any of their race times.

Tempo run pace for 17 min 5k (XC could be 10-30s slower) is ~5:50. At high 24 guy is thresholding at 5:15 or so. Those times don't seem unreasonable. 5:30 on a 15 mile run seems a bit sketchy but did they really do the whole run at that pace or just like the last 6 miles?

That being said, I wouldn't be shocked to learn the top couple of runners are running at the right pace and the rest of the team is running 10s too fast for them. This workout might be fine for a 17 min girl but the 18 min one? Not so much....

That workout was perfectly fine for XC runners of that level, fastest guy was the SEC champ, so probably something like a 13:50-14:00 level guy. The rest might be around 14:10 to 40 runners? Maybe it was a bit quick for the slower guys but overall it's not crazy.

Also XC times don't mean anything ... you could be running on grass, a hilly course, a short or long course etc... I wouldn't put much stock into that. Look at who they beat, or their track times if they're recent enough.

strain aboard wrote:

Dennis the Constitutional Peasant wrote:

LINK???

https://youtu.be/7cXPu1-bQYA

People watch these videos? Couldn't make it through two minutes got so bored.

A 17:30 5k runner or 20:30 6k runner shouldn't be doing ( tempos at 5:40pace), that's a race. Yes, 24 might threshold a 8k at 5:20, but this was 8 miles and 25 min 8k guys did this pace too. They were running 5:06 at points; guys in that group can't run 8k at that pace racing. Clearly this is showing off for the camera and they are running way to hard.

seriously????? wrote:

strain aboard wrote:

https://youtu.be/7cXPu1-bQYA

People watch these videos? Couldn't make it through two minutes got so bored.

I think it's the same video. They are running way to fast. Dudes are being dropped left and right and one dude acts as if it's soooo easy, but actually you can see they are running way to fast. Anyone can see they are running way to hard.

18 minute 5k girls tempo ' s at a 5:40 to 50 pace for 5miles?

One of my friends did an 8k tempo in under 24:20 as a true freshman. Just a day in the office

So what if they are running too fast? They are young and enjoying themselves.

Dairyland wrote:

One of my friends did an 8k tempo in under 24:20 as a true freshman. Just a day in the office

8k tempo in 24:20? No, freshmen, or for that fact anyone is running 8k tempos in 24:20 in college. A day in the office? Lol..l don't know many freshmen that all out peak race at 24:20, much less tempo. Very few!

You do you.

Ever seen the Kenyans train? They try to keep up or they don't make it.

Shopping hour wrote:

You do you.

Ever seen the Kenyans train? They try to keep up or they don't make it.

Yes, l have seen the Kenyans train. I have seen them shuffle along on easy runs too. Recovery my friend!

Coach watching wrote:

So what if they are running too fast? They are young and enjoying themselves.

Ahhhhhh yes, then let's not call it a team, but rather some dudes and gals enjoying themselves and racing for the camera and training at the wrong pace.

Two freshmen on my son's team ran 24:45 tempo 5 miler in the fall. Some guys can roll on straight crushed limestone trails. They will probably run close to 14 flat 5k this year.

If that is what you want to call them, but they have a coach and haven't been kicked off of the team.

Apologies, I asked him again and he said it was closer to 24:30

I don’t know why that’s so surprising to you. He would’ve broken 4 minutes without covid going on and that lines up right with his threshold.

Why do you doubt this?