Really disappointed in friends getting Covid vaccine

joedirtty2 wrote:

Limes wrote:

There is a mobile vaccination center setup in my home town in NW NJ. It has traffic directing and everything. According to the local paper it's been "hectic" but they've been able to vaccinate 20 people per day (the vaccination workers only do it from 9-4).

20 vaccines per four hours...maybe the rollout will be finished by 2025.

Must be government or union workers. Just trying to stay employed until the next pandemic while collecting hazard pay.

I'd like to give an update. paper misprinted. It was 200/four hour day.

You won't get an answer wrote:

Before you read any further, I AM NOT AGAINST THE VACCINE. It's always been my opinion that you can't puff out your chest and call all the covid fanatics fearmongers if you're going to turn around and spread fear about the vaccine.

So, the reason I'm disappointed in my friends/acquaintances getting the Covid vaccine is that they are young, healthy people who are working remotely 90+ percent of the time. They are finding loopholes to cut the line for the vaccine. Last I checked, there are still plenty of grandmas who have not been vaccinated yet, so what gives? I thought we were all about protecting others, especially those most vulnerable?

My wife has a low grade case of high blood pressure and will get her first shot next week. I am sure she is jumping the queue relative to some group somewhere. I would rather see one additional person getting vaccinated than trying to vaccinate all of a particular group which is not working. We can continue targeting particular groups while at the same time the general public.

Just take Raw Honey. You will all be fine

Harambe wrote:

Runner10287 wrote:

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What about all those countries without lockdowns like your holy land of Sweden? How is their GDP doing?

Oopsie, you didn't think about that! Turns out a pandemic is bad for the economy?! Startling!!

Somehow I think the Swedish GDP would be tied to and depend largely on the countries with which they have a lot of trade with...which were on lockdown. Ooops, I guess you didn't think about that. This is expected with covid cultists though. Turns out lockdowns may actually have something to do with it. Shocking!!

You sound like the communism apologists: The USSR only failed because of NATO's embargoes!!! Sweden saw massive consumer demand decrease without "lockdowns." That's not some other country's fault. Pandemics run amok cause economic retraction... who knew?

my head hurts wrote:

Harambe wrote:

What about all those countries without lockdowns like your holy land of Sweden? How is their GDP doing?

Oopsie, you didn't think about that! Turns out a pandemic is bad for the economy?! Startling!!

Somehow I think the Swedish GDP would be tied to and depend largely on the countries with which they have a lot of trade with...which were on lockdown. Ooops, I guess you didn't think about that. This is expected with covid cultists though. Turns out lockdowns may actually have something to do with it. Shocking!!

China has grown because they eradicated the virus early on with insanely strict lockdown measures... You morons love to own yourselves :D

that's not nice wrote:

Harambe wrote:

Aside from, you know, helping to end a pandemic that has ground the world to a halt.

Pretty sure governments have ground the world to a halt. Not some overblown virus.

Wait, maybe it hasn't ground to a halt after all...china has grown remarkably in 2020..

Checked VAERS again the other day. COVID vaccine death count was up to 148. Most are residents of nursing homes or in the 60+ age group, but 2 are 18-29, 2 are 30-39, 4 are 40-49, and 14 are 50-59. A couple were healthcare workers / doctors with no known health conditions. Just a reminder that vaccines are not without risks. Given the small number of individuals in the 13-39 age group that have been vaccinated to date (basically just health workers and vaccine trial participants), it would be interesting to see how that compares to the IFR for COVID for that age group (about 7 in 100,000, but even that may be over stated), not to mention the unknown long term effects of the new vaccine technology.

comedyre1i3f wrote:

Checked VAERS again the other day. COVID vaccine death count was up to 148. Most are residents of nursing homes or in the 60+ age group, but 2 are 18-29, 2 are 30-39, 4 are 40-49, and 14 are 50-59. A couple were healthcare workers / doctors with no known health conditions. Just a reminder that vaccines are not without risks. Given the small number of individuals in the 13-39 age group that have been vaccinated to date (basically just health workers and vaccine trial participants), it would be interesting to see how that compares to the IFR for COVID for that age group (about 7 in 100,000, but even that may be over stated), not to mention the unknown long term effects of the new vaccine technology.

VAERS reports all events. It is a preliminary system that can and does include many events that are not caused by the vaccine.

Please stop bumping threads with anti-vaxx BS speculation.

2600 bro wrote:

You sound like the communism apologists:

The USSR only failed because of NATO's embargoes!!!

Sweden saw massive consumer demand decrease without "lockdowns." That's not some other country's fault. Pandemics run amok cause economic retraction... who knew?

my head hurts wrote:

Somehow I think the Swedish GDP would be tied to and depend largely on the countries with which they have a lot of trade with...which were on lockdown. Ooops, I guess you didn't think about that. This is expected with covid cultists though. Turns out lockdowns may actually have something to do with it. Shocking!!

Always good to see the COVID deniers vacate the thread after getting owned by us geniuses :)

The odds of two people dying in the 18-29 age category within a two week period from all causes is about 1 in 480,000 (closer to 1 in a million if you eliminate accidents from the equation, as these were sudden, non-accidental deaths). The question then becomes how many 18-29 individuals did they vaccinate over that time period. Was it a million. If so, then these may be coincidental. If not, they are potentially due to the vaccine.

comedyre1i3f wrote:

Checked VAERS again the other day. COVID vaccine death count was up to 148. Most are residents of nursing homes or in the 60+ age group, but 2 are 18-29, 2 are 30-39, 4 are 40-49, and 14 are 50-59. A couple were healthcare workers / doctors with no known health conditions. Just a reminder that vaccines are not without risks. Given the small number of individuals in the 13-39 age group that have been vaccinated to date (basically just health workers and vaccine trial participants), it would be interesting to see how that compares to the IFR for COVID for that age group (about 7 in 100,000, but even that may be over stated), not to mention the unknown long term effects of the new vaccine technology.

The cdc puts frontline essential workers along with people over 75 in phase 1b. 1a was only healthcare workers. There are a tremendous number of frontline essential workers.

This a harsh take but there is truth in it. In the 12-35 age group the pandemic has utterly gutted quality of life for some people for an entire YEAR of their lives. I know 24 people who got Covid; only 1 was under age 35. But I know a guy in his early 30s with a 1 year old and wife who he supports with a restaurant he started 5 years ago that has been destroyed by shutdowns. I also have a friend whose previously normal 13 year old was hospitalized for suicidal thoughts because of the school and sports shutdowns. Our town high school reported a suicide of a remote student a few months ago too. I think amongst the long term unemployed (I know some who have been out of work since April), there is also a bitter sense of disillusionment. And essential grocery and delivery workers are weary too. They’ve been sticking their necks out for months for low wages so that some Americans can hole up in their 4000 sq. foot home and attend Zoom meetings for a year while eating doordash.

Biggest Disappointments of the Pandemic

1. the use of the schools as a political pawn.. they know it is THE #1 most disruptive thing they can impose on the public, and they are turning the screws HARD.

2. the over reach of unelected government officials. The CDC said that people dont have to pay rent.. not a court, not a law, not a president or governor.. but a government agency. That is seriously scary stuff.

3. this showcased how low a priority we place on the elderly and aged. once the vaccine came out, everyone scrambled to get themselves bumped to the front in place of the people this disease is actually killing.

4. the lack of fatalities in the homeless, jails, and prisons. if this could have taken out a big percentage of these people we would all be much better off as a society.

5. hording of essential supplies.. human nature at it's worst.

I had the first dose of the Moderna vaccine last week because I belong to group 1b. In my state, each county moves at its own pace, and there are no restrictions against going out of county to get the shot, so I drove two hours to a vaccination site where I had been on a waiting list. Many of my peers have done the same.

I walked into the grocery yesterday for the first time in about ten months and was astonished at the number of customers who were not masked. Clearly grocery store employees are essential to our functioning society, and clearly many of those workers have risk factors for COVID complications and work in a risky environment, so it's beyond me to understand why they should not be in the 1b category and be able to get on the same waiting list I was on.