Allowing myself 1 alcoholic beverage for every 50 miles run in 2021

Bad Wigins wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

I will point out to them that they have issues with drinking

Then I'm not incorrect that you're projecting.

If you've been 6 drinks a year your whole life, then you're in don't-know-what-you're-talking-about territory.

For your edification, since OP isn't a marathoner, 50 miles means at least 3 days between, and chemical dependency is not possible that way with alcohol.

That leaves the Temperance Nut arguing for some kind of psychological dependency, and also claiming that it represents a "problem," an entirely subjective position.

I've noticed, over the years, you're one of the most overconfident, smug posters here. Instead of getting offended about that, why not let OP make his own decisions? He's asking for advice at most, not instruction.

You are an idiot. You said I was a projecting 12-stepper. Nope. He is wanting to reward himself with drinking...first saying after 50 miles and then just moments later 20 miles. If you set up drinking as a reward, then you have an issue with it.

Hi Jamin, this is another great thread! You and Greg are amazing posters on this MB, I wish we could go on a date.

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Bad Wigins wrote:

at least 3 days between, and chemical dependency is not possible that way with alcohol.

False. Now go be a retard somewhere else.

Hello,

Maybe the problem isn't so much the alcohol but the way you're thinking about it. Like setting goals/targets, maybe being obsessed, rationalising it.

I know it sounds healthy to say 'I'll have one drink per 50 miles' but then when you get to 40 miles will you be chomping at the bit and like AHHH I need to get to 50? And then you go out and run 10 miles just so you can have a drink? If so, that isn't going to work and may result in you thinking about it more.

I don't know, but what about saying 'I will drink reasonably' - as in, I will have a couple of drinks here and there, I won't get smashed out of my mind. Like say a few times a week but don't put a set number on it. But then, I don't know if this is achievable.

Good luck either way.

Ah, you're no fun. You're too reasonable.

Okay, let's do this. Instead of one drink per 50 miles, we break it down to like ounces of beer per mile run. So, it might be one ounce of beer for every 3 miles. Fifty miles per pint. Easy peasy.

But you gotta have something to think about while you're running so let's convert that to liters. And since you have a lot of time to think about it, let's go one step further and make that liters per kilometer.

I have no idea what that would come out to, but you've got a lot of time to figure it out. So get running (and don't let that dry-mouth stop ya)!

Flagpole wrote:

You are an idiot. You said I was a projecting 12-stepper. Nope. He is wanting to reward himself with drinking...first saying after 50 miles and then just moments later 20 miles. If you set up drinking as a reward, then you have an issue with it.

Bad Wigins is an idiot. However, a person can reward themselves with a drink and not have an issue with alcohol. Jamin likely does have a problem, but, a lot of runners are pretty strict with their diet. I don't drink very often and that's highly related to diet and performance. For me, having a beer as a treat is no different than having ice cream as a treat - empty calories which I generally avoid.

I will note that it's common for people to give themselves food/drink rewards for exercising, and that I agree it is a bad practice as it's far easier to eat more calories than you burn.

I am allowing myself one soda for every 5 sessions of injury prevention exercises I do!

Does anyone notice/thibk it’s funny how jamin creates these random threads and doesn’t respond to them yet everyone on here spends pages of posts discussing his life. Do you think he reads them and gets joy from this?

Runner-9999 wrote:

Does anyone notice/thibk it’s funny how jamin creates these random threads and doesn’t respond to them yet everyone on here spends pages of posts discussing his life. Do you think he reads them and gets joy from this?

Good point, What do you want to talk about?

Don't sweat it too much, he usually deletes them in no short order anyway.

I don't know the specifics about Jamin's situation but I do get the feeling over the years that there's a problem here.

I'm going to have to agree with Flaggie here (first time ever) in that if you're scheduling/planning drinking as a reward then there's definitely an underlying problem.

And, speaking from experience though give me some rope on this: you're lying to yourself if you think you'll keep it to just one.

And then once you kill that 6-pack that you were only suppose to have one of, instead of admitting a mistake and re-starting the effort, it'll be another 6-pack the next night (Thursday night is practically Friday night anyways). Then it's the weekend - all bets off ...and then the 1beer/50miles is never heard of or seen again. There are people that might not understand this: just-one-drink doesn't work if you have the propensities of a problem - maybe it works if you are going out with friends who aren't truly non-drinkers (I personally know only ~2 people like this, Flaggie makes 3) but if you're buying some beer to bring home and have alone, it wouldn't stop at one.

If you haven't already, look up some videos on Youtube about people dealing with alcohol/alcoholism. Sobriety doesn't sound like fun (I'd never go completely sober) but listening to some stories of the mental tactics in some of these videos could help.

My strategy, which admittedly doesn't hold all the time, is to only have a drink (6-pack) on evenings when I have a planned day off from training on the next day (usually every 21st day) and holidays when with family/friends and after some races (<--but those can be the most dangerous). The "no drink if running tomorrow" rule helps me when I have the urge to think about the next day and how that run/session is more important to me than drinking at that moment.

I understand that my strategy is a form of "scheduling drinking" but it's more fixed and standardized than a mileage standard - so maybe that makes a difference. Hope this helps.

-Krispy

*are truly non-drinkers

krispy kremlin._._._._. wrote:

I'm going to have to agree with Flaggie here (first time ever) in that if you're scheduling/planning drinking as a reward then there's definitely an underlying problem.

CORRECT!