NIKE DAGONFLY VS NB FUELCELL MD-X

I think it will ultimately come down to the person’s preference. Having own and use the DFs, no lie that they are fast. So do the the other spikes that everyone owns.

But this is like comparing the Fuelcell against the ZoomX cushioning. Subtle differences I guess since the performance of these “super foams” almost indistinguishable in the marathon running circuit. Main question will be: How does the cushion and spike respond to your running stride/style?

The majority of runners on the running circuit appear to be opting for VaporFly's and AlphaFly's, and then there are the occasional Saucony Endorphin Pro. Each of those use a Peba based foam, which is 'reportedly' the highest in energy return.

Adidas has outfitted some east africans in their Adizero Pro, with a midsole having a combination of LightStrike and Boost.

As far as we know, the NewBalance spike is not using a Peba based foam.

energy return wrote:

Adidas has outfitted some east africans in their Adizero Pro, with a midsole having a combination of LightStrike and Boost.

LightStrike is not a Peba foam.

The fact that some of those east africans in the Adizero Pro are indeed winning races, in addition to the fact that Marty Herir was wearing the Adizero Pro in his 1st place at 'The Marathon Project' is proof that a Peba based foam midsole is not essential. Burnsy was trying to tell us that those folks are winning in spite of the shoe.

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energy return wrote:

The fact that some of those east africans in the Adizero Pro are indeed winning races, in addition to the fact that Marty Herir was wearing the Adizero Pro in his 1st place at 'The Marathon Project' is proof that a Peba based foam midsole is not essential. Burnsy was trying to tell us that those folks are winning in spite of the shoe.

Yo, burnsy, you out there? Do you have a response to the above?

energy return wrote:

The fact that some of those east africans in the Adizero Pro are indeed winning races, in addition to the fact that Marty Herir was wearing the Adizero Pro in his 1st place at 'The Marathon Project' is proof that a Peba based foam midsole is not essential. Burnsy was trying to tell us that those folks are winning in spite of the shoe.

Umm...I think you guys are mixing some things up here. First of all, the "Adizero Pro" is a low-stack shoe with boost and lightstrike and a carbon plate. It's kind of like an Adios with a carbon plate and minimal upper. The Adidas shoe that has been popping up on road race podiums in recent months is the "Adizero Adios Pro," which is a high-stack shoe using lightstrike pro foam and carbon rods.

Lightstrike is reportedly some type of EVA (though at one point Adidas' website said it was TPU, I think that was an error as everyone seems to agree that it's EVA). However, Lightstrike Pro could be a completely different type of foam. It's not unprecedented for companies to use a similar name for completely different types of foam. Saucony does this with their pwrrun and pwrrun+, Nike does this with zoom and zoomx, reebok does it with floatride run and floatride energy. It's completely normal to expect that Lightstrike Pro could be a completely different type of foam from Lightstrike.

So if you're talking about the Adizero Adios Pro, then the relevant question is what type of foam is Lightstrike Pro, not Lightstrike. And I have not yet seen that reported anywhere. Does anyone actually know for sure what type of foam Lightstrike Pro is?