I am seriously considering quitting running

Very few distance runners go to college for free, except via academic scholarship.

No one wants to hear high school stories in college.

big baseball player wrote:

david45 wrote:

I wish I could have been a good runner in high school. I could have gone to college for free and have amazing stories to tell.

Very few distance runners go to college for free, except via academic scholarship.

No one wants to hear high school stories in college.

Still, being a NCAA athlete is cool

And the second part is a lie. People talk about high school all the time in college

The people you idolize are losers. Watch this Sham 69 video. It will change your life.

https://youtu.be/f0-kRBBxQmk

David, for me, running was not a lot of fun in college. I was a good student and found that perhaps I was more talented in academics than running and really felt the opportunity cost of sport. I worked for the EPA as a statistician in school and although I wasn't sure I was supposed to do this (NCAA), I liked it a lot more than running. My coach wasn't thrilled with my job.

My school is highly ranked academically, but notorious for catering to athletes. If you wore a letter jacket, warm-up gear or shoe sponsored gear on campus you had a mark on your head. I always always, wore brown shoes, jeans, and a regular shirt. Rockports, geek shoes, fit the mold. You did not want the professors in the math department think you were a jock. I heard horror stories. English majors were out.

My best man at my wedding was world record holder in the mile and he went incognito as I did. He later got tenure at U of Ill. He disliked the dumb jock thing as much as anyone. He was my role model!

Remember, my school gave out 1200 A's in the African American Studies department over a few years to athletes for writing one paragraph term papers. You can find the term paper on Rosa Parks online. It is literally: "She wanted to sit it the front, she couldn't, got busted and is now a hero!" Two basketball players sued the school for not really giving them an education. The school sued the above Prof for theft since he didn't teach. We fired a tutor for pointing out that 100s of athletes she tutored had 5th grade reading levels. She settled for big bucks.

The few girls in the math department (where I spent most of time) wanted nothing to do with a dumb ass jock. It was always easier to play the jock to get a date with Greek women, but that really wasn't me. Luckily, I found a woman in the math department who liked me.

We always wish for what we didn't have. I had rich, divorced parents who hated each other and would not pay for college as neither wanted to reveal finances to the college or the IRS or to the court. I was lucky to have running. My parents would have copped out after one semester at best and I would have been stuck-no chance of aid. But my real dream was to go to Amherst or Williams or Pomona and be a student. I am sure that I could have gotten in, but it wasn't meant to be..

david45 wrote:

And the second part is a lie. People talk about high school all the time in college

How do you know? You have no friends. You don't talk to people. You always whine about how you're lonely, you've told us you don't leave your room other than eating/running/going to the bathroom. You told us that all you do in your free time is watch youtube.

As for your point, yes, people will talk about what they did in high school as an icebreaker on freshmen facebook pages and stuff. But after that? Not really. No use living in the past forever.

And it really doesn't matter if you began running now, 2 years ago, 5 years ago, or whenever. You have the worst attitude, totally uncoachable. You've spent almost the last 2 years whining and not making the investments or commitments to improve. If you started running earlier, you'd just have a longer posting history here driving people crazy.

I want to train, but I keep getting injured.

That's because you aren't taking the necessary steps to build yourself up to a body to handle consistent running, and ignore all sorts of advice telling you to do so.

You probably are in the 'run-walk' stage where stuff like easy pace/heart rate go out the window. You shouldn't be worrying about those things when you can't even handle a C25k program.

thiscupisnthalffull wrote:

david45 wrote:

I want to train, but I keep getting injured.

That's because you aren't taking the necessary steps to build yourself up to a body to handle consistent running, and ignore all sorts of advice telling you to do so.

You probably are in the 'run-walk' stage where stuff like easy pace/heart rate go out the window. You shouldn't be worrying about those things when you can't even handle a C25k program.

19 year olds aren't that weak

And this is why you're uncoachable. You aren't willing to listen/change/adapt.

It doesn't matter what your age or gender is. Your near sedentary lifestyle means your bones/muscles/joints have no strength or durability.

The next reply is "I did PE and martial arts in middle school, however", and we'll go down the same rabbit hole again. Why do I even bother.

thiscupisnthalffull wrote:

And this is why you're uncoachable. You aren't willing to listen/change/adapt.

It doesn't matter what your age or gender is. Your near sedentary lifestyle means your bones/muscles/joints have no strength or durability.

The next reply is "I did PE and martial arts in middle school, however", and we'll go down the same rabbit hole again. Why do I even bother.

Then tell me how to fix my problem

david45 wrote:

thiscupisnthalffull wrote:

And this is why you're uncoachable. You aren't willing to listen/change/adapt.

It doesn't matter what your age or gender is. Your near sedentary lifestyle means your bones/muscles/joints have no strength or durability.

The next reply is "I did PE and martial arts in middle school, however", and we'll go down the same rabbit hole again. Why do I even bother.

Then tell me how to fix my problem

Tons of print sources exist to get you started on a run/walk program. I'm not going to point you out to one, you should have the ability to do that.

david45 wrote:

thiscupisnthalffull wrote:

That's because you aren't taking the necessary steps to build yourself up to a body to handle consistent running, and ignore all sorts of advice telling you to do so.

You probably are in the 'run-walk' stage where stuff like easy pace/heart rate go out the window. You shouldn't be worrying about those things when you can't even handle a C25k program.

19 year olds aren't that weak

Obviously some are, aren't they? Maybe you are one of them.

david45 wrote:

Except anyone can join the XC team in most schools.

Yes, except very few do. Those that do train to run everyday. They often have a running background. Making 5:00 miles much more common.

Among the general running population, 5:00 miles are far more rare.

Mikeh33 wrote:

david45 wrote:

Except anyone can join the XC team in most schools.

Yes, except very few do. Those that do train to run everyday. They often have a running background. Making 5:00 miles much more common.

Among the general running population, 5:00 miles are far more rare.

What are you talking about? Most XC teams are gigantic.

david45 wrote:

Mikeh33 wrote:

Yes, except very few do. Those that do train to run everyday. They often have a running background. Making 5:00 miles much more common.

Among the general running population, 5:00 miles are far more rare.

What are you talking about? Most XC teams are gigantic.

Where?

I agree. The general population can't run 5:00 because they don't want to. If you gave them the same training and motivation that cross country teams had, I bet half of all men could break 5. I'm including those who are fat but have to slim down, even obese people. They just need to change their health habits. david45 is just a huge anomaly. He was damned by God.

Sham 69 wrote:

I agree. The general population can't run 5:00 because they don't want to. If you gave them the same training and motivation that cross country teams had, I bet half of all men could break 5. I'm including those who are fat but have to slim down, even obese people. They just need to change their health habits. david45 is just a huge anomaly. He was damned by God.

How was I damned by God?

david45 wrote:

Sham 69 wrote:

I agree. The general population can't run 5:00 because they don't want to. If you gave them the same training and motivation that cross country teams had, I bet half of all men could break 5. I'm including those who are fat but have to slim down, even obese people. They just need to change their health habits. david45 is just a huge anomaly. He was damned by God.

How was I damned by God?

You already had a thread about this.