Biden announces 1st day order of business. Allow biological males in women's sports

So expressing an opinion should "cancel" someone? Keep them from earning a living? So...freedom of speech just not important to you? People with this kind of thinking eventually eat their young. I can't wait.

bartholomew_maxwell wrote:

Just as I suspected, LRC community showing it's disgusting transphobic tendencies.

Well, bless your heart. Tell me, why do you hate biological women so much? Rejected one time too many? Picked on in high school?

This is truly nuts. I can't believe people are going along with this insanity. Giving 8 year olds gender reassignment surgery. Can't see anyway that goes wrong.

Disgusted wrote:

Bullet_Proof wrote:

Biological sex should be defined.

Woman is an adult female. Female is:

of or denoting the sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs, distinguished biologically by the production of gametes (ova) which can be fertilized by male gametes.

Look at you, throwing around biological deterministic absolutes like a boss!

Okay unhelpful wording by myself. What I mean is defining women is such a narrow restrictive way opens the door for women (whether cis- or trans-) to be defined in other restricted ways.

If you reverse it you can see this.s

*if you reverse it you can see it. Men are often defined by whether or not they are "real men" with a set of necessary characteristics because they haven't benefitted from pushback against sex-based stereotypes (unlike women). Imagine if we start down the road of saying "real women" are child-bearing, real women get married, real women don't work certain jobs etc etc. That's what it opened by trying to define women in purely biological terms.

ok

Holly came from Miami, F.L.A.

Hitch-hiked her way across the U.S.A.

Plucked her eyebrows on the way

Shaved her legs and then he was a she

She says, "Hey, babe

Take a walk on the wild side"

Said, "Hey, honey

Take a walk on the wild side"

I'm going to make a comeback and win the womens 800 in Paris. Easy.

889 wrote:

[ but most support men being homosexuals, so there ya go.

What does that even mean?

But in all seriousness...

This is actually a very interesting and relevant topic. I'm not sure how relevant this is on a global level (because news flash America you actually control global policy for every - especially sports), so it seems unlikely that without even getting into the details/alleged details of this that we will be seeing a slew of transgender/transitioned women and men lining up at an Olympic Games.

Nationally it's a little more interesting. Obviously these sentiment around any potential updates to national policy surrounding this (and I don't even know what the believe with respect to what I read so will only believe it when I see it and see the implications of it) are with intended with respect to I guess what you could attempt to call "genuine" (and I don't even know if this is the word so let me preface that before I am cancelled for incorrect vernacular) transgender athletes who did not make a decision to alter their biological physiological assignment for the benefit of sports.

The impending issue will be, what happens when that does become reality, and sadly you know it will. If I know America, and I do know it now pretty well, it's only a matter of time before someone realizes they can leverage this for some kind of financial/personal gain and then we are off to the races figuratively and literally so to speak.

For example, at what point does someone officially a transitioning/transitioned athlete? Is mindset okay? Is it enough for someone to say "psychologically I feel this way therefore I am"? Once you open a door - even just by an inch you know someone will be there to smash it wide open? I simply don't know.

Maybe a rule is that you need to be involved in an active transition process - but what does that mean? If I am one week into taking estrogen as part of my transition does this count, even though physiologically I am essentially no different from the week prior? Can I turn up to the New York Marathon and compete as a female simply with the criteria of a psychological proposition and only a few hours into a gender re-assignment program? How do you monitor that? Doesthat infringe on someone's rights?

Bottom line, before we all panic, let's just find out some actual facts and details.

I havent read this, so you may be raising a straw man for all I know. But no one on this site, liberal or conservative, supports non-hormone therapy males competing with women. Nor do we support double amputees with advantageous blades being in the open category. Scientists, who are mostly liberal, don't support this. This is one of the very few actual examples of woke ignorance gone wrong, and I have no problem opposing it openly.

ocin3125 wrote:

I understand this is a mainly liberal website right? Well here you go liberals!

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/01/15/joe-biden-day-1-order-on-transgender-rights-in-sports-and-bathrooms/

Well as soon as I saw the source was breitbart I stopped reading.

Serious question: Are homo sapiens the only form of animal life that has more than two genders? Related question, does anyone within the privacy of their own home refer to their dog, cat, or other favorite mammalian pet using gender neutral nouns and pronouns? Am I not PC when I say "Good Boy" to reinforce positive behavior from my dog? Have I just committed a cancellable offense?

pseudoscience wrote:

Very nice. Womens sports categories are toxic equality of outcome

So there shouldnt be any weight classes in wrestling either? Like sumo. And there shouldnt be classes in auto racing. And no age limited categories in soccer. Why should there even be footraces? Isnt that just protecting people who cant afford a racing motorbike? Or an F1? Or a private jet? Lame. All the fastest people alive are astronauts who have been to the moon. Usain bolt is meaningless.

Imagine being this much of a prat.

CrispyChicken wrote:

Serious question: Are homo sapiens the only form of animal life that has more than two genders? Related question, does anyone within the privacy of their own home refer to their dog, cat, or other favorite mammalian pet using gender neutral nouns and pronouns? Am I not PC when I say "Good Boy" to reinforce positive behavior from my dog? Have I just committed a cancellable offense?

By assuming your dog's gender, you are showing yourself to be bigoted against trans athletes. It's obvious to those of us who are far more enlightened than you. Also, owning a pet plays into that whole white Eurocentric master race slavery ethos. You have a swastika hanging in your garage, don't you?

No, but I do think that German Shepherds make good home companions.

CrispyChicken wrote:

No, but I do think that German Shepherds make good home companions.

Well, there you have it. I'll bet your dog is trained to bite Jews on command. No telling what he would do to a trans athlete.

Breitbart is not a liberal site. Quite the opposite. Think Steve Bannon. And more.

While I am sure Biden supports transgender rights, which is good, this will get complicated as it does not allow for women’s sports to function for women. There is no easy answer, but I do hope this is merely a misinterpretation of a good idea about rights.

kiowavt wrote:

Breitbart is not a liberal site. Quite the opposite. Think Steve Bannon. And more.

While I am sure Biden supports transgender rights, which is good, this will get complicated as it does not allow for women’s sports to function for women. There is no easy answer, but I do hope this is merely a misinterpretation of a good idea about rights.

What was the road to hell paved with again?

doin it wrote:

Well as soon as I saw the source was breitbart I stopped reading.

Ummm, so what you're saying is, this is not a real issue that has been taken to court. The athletes are not real... it's all just made up fantasy from Breitbart.

Liberals are the absolute idiotic element of society. The fantasy lives purely in their head.