Capitol riot: something seems amiss

Paradoxical wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

But, as usual, the facts are quite different from what the right is claiming.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/jan/09/facebook-posts/facebook-posts-wrongly-claim-left-wing-activist-an/

But there’s no proof that Sullivan "incited (the) insurgence," and he has denied any affiliation with antifa, a broad coalition of anti-fascist activists. In a Sept. 8 press briefing, FBI Assistant Director Steven D’Antuono said the agency has "no indication" that antifa played a role.

He's on camera at the Capitol says "Let's burn this sh!t down!" What do you call that, exactly?

Sullivan is a nutjob, discredited and rejected by the left as much as he is now being vilified by the right. But his stupidity is the one thing he has in common with the thousands of right wing nationalists who assailed the Capitol. They didn't need "left wing agitators" to incite them to an insurrection; all it took was a President stoking lies about election fraud. The Liar-in-Chief has plenty of idiots who believe him here.

Obama wasn't great either - it's not a competition. I put ignorance of (or active deconstruction of) the global alliance system on par with or worse than drone striking Yemeni orphanages in terms of net harm to the world. Malfeasance through inaction is very real and very dangerous. The only reason the USA attained and has maintained its sole-superpower status is through being a reliable, trustworthy ally to a majority of the world's population.

Wizzdumb wrote:

2600 bro wrote:

Again... you're being played. Trump was only "anti-media" such as to prime his base for his next venture. It's all a ploy to extract money from "revolution" LARPers and WOW did it work better than I expected.

Props to the Trump team for scamming y'all of a few hundred million $ on the way out.

Oh by the way. Trump's "anti-war" scheming 1) failed to bring troops home 2) undermined the global alliances that keep players like Russia, China, and Iran in check 3) legitimized the NK regime that actually poses a minor existential threat to world peace. Nice work!

How many wars did he expand? Zero. Now, go gargle Obama's warmongering cup of c_m.

You're a chump. You're full of sh!t.

I'm just curious.

Has anyone considered that the reason people are rioting is because its fun and cathartic in this Covid19 world?

I live in Portland OR. This past summer I was driving home at night across the river from downtown . I ran into a crowd who had blocked off the street with a big bonfire in the street. Apparently they were protesting some local government offices. I turned and found another route home. But I distinctly remember thinking how refreshing it would be to park my car and go help build more bon fires. It just sounded more fun then going home and seeing what was on Hulu.

Maybe that is just me. But somehow I doubt it.

Ryan Foreman wrote:

I'm just curious.

Has anyone considered that the reason people are rioting is because its fun and cathartic in this Covid19 world?

I live in Portland OR. This past summer I was driving home at night across the river from downtown . I ran into a crowd who had blocked off the street with a big bonfire in the street. Apparently they were protesting some local government offices. I turned and found another route home. But I distinctly remember thinking how refreshing it would be to park my car and go help build more bon fires. It just sounded more fun then going home and seeing what was on Hulu.

Maybe that is just me. But somehow I doubt it.

Probably find a lot of this doesn't happen if COVID didn't exist. There was far less to distract us, so more of us took notice of the many social injustices in our country. And more people spent more time surfing their twitter feed, following the BS into the social media rabbit hole.

So, if more bars were open or if fans could attend college football games, maybe we are a more united America. Who knew alcohol and sports were so important....

Wizzdumb wrote:

hope to hear your wizzdumb wrote:

Claiming narcissism of liberals? The person you on on your knees for is one of the biggest narcissist in history. Dispute this or you no wizz and only dumb.

I haven't said he's not a narcissist. But, he's not a psychopath like a majority of your Democrat 'leaders'.

Psycho's at the top preying on 'useful idiots' at the bottom. That is an accurate description of the Democratic Party.

Please give an example of how the Democrat 'leaders' are pyscopath's?

psy·cho·path

noun

a person suffering from chronic mental disorder with abnormal or violent social behavior.

Lol.

https://caityjohnstone.medium.com/viral-trumpsnewarmy-video-is-liberals-at-their-craziest-and-scariest-aee81d5deeb1

So you agree he is actually part of the swamp? Same circle of evil that includes the Clintons, Gateses, Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Bushes, Pelosis, Obamas, Schumers, Cuomos, AOCs, etc?

In Love with Trump wrote:

It's disgusting that every single one of you in this thread gives a free pass to the trillions of dollars done by the "mostly peaceful" protests last summer but want to execute Trump because we are angry about a stolen election?

You disgust me.

I'd like to see how you ended up with "trillions of dollars"...

And every single one want to execute Trump...

Lovely trumpster logic..

UberDumb wrote:

2600 bro wrote:

Again... you're being played. Trump was only "anti-media" such as to prime his base for his next venture. It's all a ploy to extract money from "revolution" LARPers and WOW did it work better than I expected.

Props to the Trump team for scamming y'all of a few hundred million $ on the way out.

Oh by the way. Trump's "anti-war" scheming 1) failed to bring troops home 2) undermined the global alliances that keep players like Russia, China, and Iran in check 3) legitimized the NK regime that actually poses a minor existential threat to world peace. Nice work!

So you agree he is actually part of the swamp? Same circle of evil that includes the Clintons, Gateses, Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Bushes, Pelosis, Obamas, Schumers, Cuomos, AOCs, etc?

All suspiciously radical leftist democrats........................................................

Now even outgoing Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell thinks Trump caused the Capitol rioting. Is he secretly Antifa too, or did the Deep State get to him somehow? If Republicans, Democrats, and the media are all pushing the same narrative, what could this possibly mean?

https://www.businessinsider.com/mitch-mcconnell-blames-trump-for-deadly-capitol-riots-2021-1

real info wrote:

Now even outgoing Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell thinks Trump caused the Capitol rioting. Is he secretly Antifa too, or did the Deep State get to him somehow? If Republicans, Democrats, and the media are all pushing the same narrative, what could this possibly mean?

https://www.businessinsider.com/mitch-mcconnell-blames-trump-for-deadly-capitol-riots-2021-1

Why don't you listen to Trump's own words, dolt?

Why do you need BS propaganda to back up your delusion?

Why do you people trust career politicians?

Not the rally. wrote:

The problem with the narrative is that the Trump rally was an hour walk to the Capitol. The people who rooted were at the Capitol 30 minutes before the rally ended.

Trump said nothing to incite the riot, and no one associated with the rally was at the Capitol when it happened.

The incitement argument isn't based on claims that Trump told or asked people to riot. It's that he kept telling lies about winning the election and lies about Biden. If enough people believe that Biden the communist won fraudulently, they will resort to violence to overturn that result.

His videos during the riot, telling rioters to go home, were considered to be inciting further violence, as he continued to re-iterate his lies about the election.

Serious Fred wrote:

Not the rally. wrote:

The problem with the narrative is that the Trump rally was an hour walk to the Capitol. The people who rooted were at the Capitol 30 minutes before the rally ended.

Trump said nothing to incite the riot, and no one associated with the rally was at the Capitol when it happened.

The incitement argument isn't based on claims that Trump told or asked people to riot. It's that he kept telling lies about winning the election and lies about Biden. If enough people believe that Biden the communist won fraudulently, they will resort to violence to overturn that result.

His videos during the riot, telling rioters to go home, were considered to be inciting further violence, as he continued to re-iterate his lies about the election.

Ummm, how about the non-stop lies about Trump from the propaganda MSM??? Years of it.

'Russia!... we have it all... the walls are closing in!'

You liberals are absolutely sick.

Ryan Foreman wrote:

I'm just curious.

Has anyone considered that the reason people are rioting is because its fun and cathartic in this Covid19 world?

I live in Portland OR. This past summer I was driving home at night across the river from downtown . I ran into a crowd who had blocked off the street with a big bonfire in the street. Apparently they were protesting some local government offices. I turned and found another route home. But I distinctly remember thinking how refreshing it would be to park my car and go help build more bon fires. It just sounded more fun then going home and seeing what was on Hulu.

Maybe that is just me. But somehow I doubt it.

There’s quite a difference between building a small fire and blocking a residential road versus storming the Capitol building to cause destruction, vandalism, and death.

No?

Wizzdumb wrote:

Serious Fred wrote:

The incitement argument isn't based on claims that Trump told or asked people to riot. It's that he kept telling lies about winning the election and lies about Biden. If enough people believe that Biden the communist won fraudulently, they will resort to violence to overturn that result.

His videos during the riot, telling rioters to go home, were considered to be inciting further violence, as he continued to re-iterate his lies about the election.

Ummm, how about the non-stop lies about Trump from the propaganda MSM??? Years of it.

'Russia!... we have it all... the walls are closing in!'

You liberals are absolutely sick.

You need to reel it in and allow for an exchange of views and beliefs. I don't see that you are doing anything to allow that, and far from it.

yes yes yes wrote:

Wizzdumb wrote:

Ummm, how about the non-stop lies about Trump from the propaganda MSM??? Years of it.

'Russia!... we have it all... the walls are closing in!'

You liberals are absolutely sick.

You need to reel it in and allow for an exchange of views and beliefs. I don't see that you are doing anything to allow that, and far from it.

Ohhhh, right. Go support your fascio-communistic (statist)Technocratic Corportocracy. It's the Party of 'free exchange of views and beliefs', obviously.

Idiots.

Wizzdumb wrote:

yes yes yes wrote:

You need to reel it in and allow for an exchange of views and beliefs. I don't see that you are doing anything to allow that, and far from it.

Ohhhh, right. Go support your fascio-communistic (statist)Technocratic Corportocracy. It's the Party of 'free exchange of views and beliefs', obviously.

Idiots.

Okay now i feel better knowing you are a troll just screwing around.

It's hard to tell sometimes. Like, most of the time.

yes yes yes wrote:

Okay now i feel better knowing you are a troll just screwing around.

It's hard to tell sometimes. Like, most of the time.

When you're not smart enough to respond with facts and logic, call the person a troll.

You're weak.

Wizzdumb wrote:

yes yes yes wrote:

Okay now i feel better knowing you are a troll just screwing around.

It's hard to tell sometimes. Like, most of the time.

When you're not smart enough to respond with facts and logic, call the person a troll.

You're weak.

LOL! You're really good at this! Keep 'em coming.