I’m wondering if a very long run 2.5+ hours at a steady pace could mirror the effects of parasympathetic overtraining. This is when your heart rate actually DECREASES and you have difficulty pushing it up. It often fools people into thinking they are fit when actually their body is exhausted.
After my good steady long run, I haven’t been able to get my heart rate up for a few days on runs, but I really don’t think my prior training could have caused that. Is one good hard day enough to cause this if I didn’t sufficiently recover after?
Very long run and parasympathetic overtraining
Training Advice/Discussion
Report Thread
You are reporting this thread to the moderators for review and possible removal from the forum.
-
-
parasympathetic overtraining...lol
-
Dwight- wrote:
parasympathetic overtraining...lol
Can't wait for the 2021 Parasympathetic Games! -
I know you’re trolling, but if you had any wrinkles on your smooth brain you’d be able to google it
-
A lot of ultra runners do 2.5 hour and longer runs on a regular basis - weekly in many cases. Wouldn’t we have heard about this medical issue from them if it were common?
-
whynoimprovement wrote:
I know you’re trolling, but if you had any wrinkles on your smooth brain you’d be able to google it
I thought it was funny anyway :)
Is your first-thing-in-the-morning resting HR elevated? That would be more of a overtraining signal for me.
Is it cold where you are? Cold weather can restrict surface blood flow. Could even affect the sensor on your watch or strap.
Maybe your fitter now, work harder?
Finally do you feel OK? if so ignore it. -
Haha it was.
So there is sympathetic overtraining and parasympathetic overtraining. My very limited knowledge based on google searches is that sympathetic overtraining is the typical “working too hard too frequently” and parasympathetic is often “doing too much aerobic work”.
What happens in sympathetic OT is you feel dead, cant sleep, etc. with parasympathetic you actually feel kind of decent and can sleep, but when you run you can’t push your heart rate up at all, and it’s very difficult to sustain hard effort (like way more than usual).
My heart rate (via chest strap) has SUDDENLY dropped like 15bpm for my easy run pace. It still feels easy, but I’m almost like the tiniest bit light-headed.
My current plan is to chill a bit and really improve my diet and hydration. -
This is different than in regular overtraining where on an easy run your hr will skyrocket
-
whynoimprovement wrote:
Haha it was.
So there is sympathetic overtraining and parasympathetic overtraining. My very limited knowledge based on google searches is that sympathetic overtraining is the typical “working too hard too frequently” and parasympathetic is often “doing too much aerobic work”.
What happens in sympathetic OT is you feel dead, cant sleep, etc. with parasympathetic you actually feel kind of decent and can sleep, but when you run you can’t push your heart rate up at all, and it’s very difficult to sustain hard effort (like way more than usual).
My heart rate (via chest strap) has SUDDENLY dropped like 15bpm for my easy run pace. It still feels easy, but I’m almost like the tiniest bit light-headed.
My current plan is to chill a bit and really improve my diet and hydration.
Why not do some short fast efforts? Problem solved. -
Training Lore wrote:
Why not do some short fast efforts? Problem solved.
How would this solve my problem? -
whynoimprovement wrote:
Training Lore wrote:
Why not do some short fast efforts? Problem solved.
How would this solve my problem?
By training your sympathetic nervous system. -
probably glycogen depleted
-
thrice a runner wrote:
probably glycogen depleted
I would second this. -
By that I mean if you ran for much longer than you're used to and your glycogen stores were already low that you might have really just dug yourself a hole in your fuel stores. Take an off day and eat a ton of pasta and it should improve
-
PTF wrote:
thrice a runner wrote:
probably glycogen depleted
I would second this.
1/3
