Actually I do know science quite well.
Point out what is not scientifically correct about anything in that above post. I'll wait... all day.
What are your science credentials?
Actually I do know science quite well.
Point out what is not scientifically correct about anything in that above post. I'll wait... all day.
What are your science credentials?
My science credentials are that I’ve been around enough high level coaches that I know how to develop and train an athlete. You don’t need a PhD to know this stuff, as you should be well aware.
The information you give is, at face value, correct. Your mistake comes in thinking that you just read this stuff in a book and know what you’re talking about. Anyone can look up on google how lactic acid dissociates or how the electron transport chain works. Knowing science does not help you whatsoever if you cannot apply it to the world and your training.
I want to address three major flaws in your argument.
1. Easy running is “by far the most important aspect in all distance running”
For a beginner like you this may be the case. Years of training under your belt says otherwise though and sessions become much more valuable and important.
2. “You can never run too slow”
Once again for a beginner like you, sure. But “never” is a very broad term that doesn’t apply. If you run for 8-10 years at a competitive level you gain almost nothing from slow running. In fact it’s better to take days off at this point so that you don’t risk injury due to running with poor form at such a slow pace. This is why professional athletes have fast easy days.
3. You should run 200-600m reps every week.
You’re completely doubling back on your argument here. Doing these kind of reps at an effort that would “make your legs fall off” every week will lead to injury and burnout. Your concept of how the anaerobic and aerobic systems are interconnected at this point is nonexistent.
See the schedule I posted on a previous thread that a colleague gave me. How does that look?
His schedule isn't very good, sorry. It's missing a lot of stuff. What are the paces/effort for the 400s/800s? How many reps ? When should you do this schedule? (all year, base, racing season...) Optimal training is periodised, individualised and adaptable.
Btw, just because he is a "legend" doesn't mean he is a good coach. Great coaches are detail oriented, good communicators, curious and creative. What are his results as a coach ? That's what should really matter, not who he knows.
I think you should a general running science/training book to understand the foundations of modern training, so: Daniels or Magness
No I didn’t because I don’t have the time to look through all your threads. If it’s anything like the one you posted here. Rethink it.
I don't think you're very good.
Well Nordic track is right.
Your arrogance blinds you.
You cannot do the same thing week in week out and expect to improve to the highest level. Read a couple books and really, truly, think about what are in them.
Fair enough. I will.
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Barf
Recommend some books.
I do not know all the technicalities behind it but once me and two teammates in hs did the exact same mileage over the summer and did all workouts at the same pace. the only thing we did separately were easy miles which I started doing from 6:45-7:15 pace (it was still mostly a feel thing) and they kept doing the miles at a strict 7:30 pace. In one year of time I went from having a 10:17 3200 pr to splitting around that(depending on the xc race) We all hit about 60-70 mpw but they could not get within 30 seconds of me in any xc race. sometimes I would beat them by almost a minute. Ever since this revelation I have thought that easy runs should still be easy but I do not agree at all witheasy running being SUPER slow. I had another underclassmen teammate use my training logs and ran every mile I did for his last two years but he never listened to me on running your easy run faster and ran 8-9 minute pace for 70 mpw and he never even broke 17.
Interestingly enough I recently joined a post collegiate track club and I am not that fast right now. There is a guy here who runs about 50 mpw on average and runs 9 min pace on his easy runs and he is pretty quick. once I get 5-6 weeks at 50 mpw I can confirm on whether or not the really slow pace easy runs will work but if I do not see improvement I will return to my easy running for feel. which is about 7:00 pace these days
fastboy77 wrote:
I never said it didn't take place in the mitochondria. Please, tell me where in my post I stated such??
You can't.
In any event, all of that information comes from a whole year of cell biology, buddy. Not everybody gets their information off of Yahoo! Answers like you.
Also, you said nothing to dispute my claim so am I right and you are wrong.
Take care now.
A whole year of study? Wow, that's impressive.
But to answer your question, your second sentence was misleading. Please correct this.
Thanks.
Happy trails.
What a revelation! But kudos for doing your research.
I agree to a big extent, easy running can probably get you to 90% of your best mile time based on genetics alone. But for the last 10% you need to push yourself to the edge (unhealthly might I add but okay if you're young). Of course that last 10% is absolutely necessary if you are a top competitor. Totally meaningless for the rest of us though.
You are a slow, arrogant idiot.
Hate to break it to ya bud.
Same here. When I was in high school I was doing 15 -20 miles/week mostly hard. I was never under 20 for 5k and was doing "easy" runs at 8min/mile or faster.
This year I got back into running, at age 35 (masters level, old fogey). I focussed on easy running, getting up to 50 miles / week. I did occasional tempo runs, and workouts, maybe once per week, but almost all of my runs were easy. I mean 9-10 min/mile easy. I just ran 38 min for 10k and 1:25 for a half marathon and 4:40 for 1500m. This is as someone who never broke 12:00 for 3200 or 20 for 5k in high school. I used to think all of these easy running people were being stupid when I was a kid. Long slow runs leads to long slow runners. Now I see what they were up to. I am a convert for life.
No, professionals do not have fast easy days, they just seem fast because we are slow. While Galen Rupp's easy days are under 6 min/mile, he can run an hour race at nearly 4:20/mile. So his 5:50/mile easy days are slow for him, and equivalent to a 38min 10k guy running his easy days at 8:40 min/mile or a 44 min 10k guy running easy days at 10 min/mile.
Ok, this is close enough so that you can research and hopefully learn something from my next questions:
1 - Compare lipid and carbohydrate metabolism in terms of the speed of process and percentage of shared use in fueling the Citric Acid Cycle with acetyl Co A. In your answer explain which systems are triggered by low, moderate, and high intensity work.
2 - Provide an understanding for those here of how type 1 & 2A fibers are engaged at different intensities AEROBICALLY since we are discussing aerobic development as our subject. In your answer discuss mitochondrial density as an adaptation in both type 1 and 2A fibers.
fastboy77 wrote:
Nothing... And I Mean NOTHING...Tops Easy Running!
That's not what your Mother said, Trebek!