Does EPO give you more energy?

inbredidiot wrote:

You don’t produce more energy you tw@t. You slow down the increase of force output required to transition to anaerobic energy because you have more RBCs to turn over CO2, O2 and other energy byproduct build ups. It’s like you’re blatantly asking a question that you know isn’t the mechanism with which EPO works to pretend you’re intelligent but you’re either a troll or an uneducated moron. To think EPO doesn’t work is to think anemia doesn’t exist. It takes a special type of stupid.

Wow, really? So how do you increase oxygen uptake without increasing metabolic rate?

I'll bite ... wrote:

how does that work? wrote:

Does doping with EPO give an athlete more energy?

That's what we are supposed to believe, right?

So how does that work? Where does this extra energy come from?

Assuming it does give you more energy, answering "from where" is easy. It comes from sugar in the blood stream, liver or muscles, or from stored fat. Alcohol and protein are also sources of energy.

Right, so how does EPO increase metabolic rate beyond human limits? How does it do that without affecting thermodynamics?

how does that work? wrote:

I'll bite ... wrote:

Assuming it does give you more energy, answering "from where" is easy. It comes from sugar in the blood stream, liver or muscles, or from stored fat. Alcohol and protein are also sources of energy.

Right, so how does EPO increase metabolic rate beyond human limits? How does it do that without affecting thermodynamics?

Show the limits.

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Thermo dino wrote:

how does that work? wrote:

Right, so how does EPO increase metabolic rate beyond human limits? How does it do that without affecting thermodynamics?

Show the limits.

Refer to Jack Daniel's work and more recently Andrew Jones.

Not convincing. Try again.

inbredidiot wrote:

You don’t produce more energy you tw@t. You slow down the increase of force output required to transition to anaerobic energy because you have more RBCs to turn over CO2, O2 and other energy byproduct build ups. It’s like you’re blatantly asking a question that you know isn’t the mechanism with which EPO works to pretend you’re intelligent but you’re either a troll or an uneducated moron. To think EPO doesn’t work is to think anemia doesn’t exist. It takes a special type of stupid.

Thanks for the laugh. This was the funniest post yet.

how does that work? wrote:

Thermo dino wrote:

Show the limits.

Refer to Jack Daniel's work and more recently Andrew Jones.

Show the limits.

Thermo dino wrote:

Not convincing. Try again.

Yes sorry, Jack Daniels' work. Forgive the misplaced apostrophe.

how does that work? wrote:

inbredidiot wrote:

You don’t produce more energy you tw@t. You slow down the increase of force output required to transition to anaerobic energy because you have more RBCs to turn over CO2, O2 and other energy byproduct build ups. It’s like you’re blatantly asking a question that you know isn’t the mechanism with which EPO works to pretend you’re intelligent but you’re either a troll or an uneducated moron. To think EPO doesn’t work is to think anemia doesn’t exist. It takes a special type of stupid.

Thanks for the laugh. This was the funniest post yet.

Funny, but apt.

Well...... wrote:

how does that work? wrote:

Thanks for the laugh. This was the funniest post yet.

Funny, but apt.

So you don't understand the meaning of the word energy either?

Those studies contradict your human limits theory.

You need to review your research.

You probably mean personal limits but even that would not be accurate.

Thermo dino wrote:

Those studies contradict your human limits theory.

You need to review your research.

You probably mean personal limits but even that would not be accurate.

Please explain why Daniels' and Jones' oxygen kinetics hypotheses are wrong?

how does that work? wrote:

Thermo dino wrote:

Those studies contradict your human limits theory.

You need to review your research.

You probably mean personal limits but even that would not be accurate.

Please explain why Daniels' and Jones' oxygen kinetics hypotheses are wrong?

Is it just a hypothesis? They are not wrong, you are.

Thermo dino wrote:

how does that work? wrote:

Please explain why Daniels' and Jones' oxygen kinetics hypotheses are wrong?

Is it just a hypothesis? They are not wrong, you are.

Are you familiar with their work?

how does that work? wrote:

Thermo dino wrote:

Is it just a hypothesis? They are not wrong, you are.

Are you familiar with their work?

Very.

Thermo dino wrote:

how does that work? wrote:

Are you familiar with their work?

Very.

Which of their conclusions and measurements do you agree with or disagree with?

I will give you a few hours to google it.

Eight years ago you were heavily engaged in a thread just like this one and you reluctantly admitted that EPO did increase the ability to actually transport oxygen but argued that it wouldn't make a difference because it wouldn't have an effect on the area where the actual energy was burned.

Well guess what studies have shown? Google it. Start with the one on mice and then work your way up to humans. It will soften the blow.