Does EPO give you more energy?

how does that work? wrote:

Yo Sara ian wrote:

No, it does not circumvent it, nor does it have to. You're already using more oxygen and getting warmer as soon as you start running. A little more won't kill you.

Any increase of heat is within the capacity of the body to cope with.

That's why Geb and Tergat looked like they had been hosed down at the finish of the Olympics 10 k.

Any more questions?

So basically, you don't believe thermodynamics affects running?

How does that work?

Sure it does, just not like you think.

Athletes on EPO no longer have to breathe as hard so that energy is saved for actual locomotion.

Yo Sara ian wrote:

how does that work? wrote:

So basically, you don't believe thermodynamics affects running?

How does that work?

Sure it does, just not like you think.

Athletes on EPO no longer have to breathe as hard so that energy is saved for actual locomotion.

How do they extract more oxygen from the same volume of air?

Do you think EPO increases rbcs? Yes or no.

Yo Sara ian wrote:

Do you think EPO increases rbcs? Yes or no.

Yes.

Do you believe that EPO gives you more energy?

An exercise physiologist would say it's a stupid question, but that is essentially what they believe.

And they can't explain their beliefs because they don't understand the most basic physiological concepts like thermoregulation.

So I think everyone deserves some answers.

how does that work? wrote:

Yo Sara ian wrote:

Do you think EPO increases rbcs? Yes or no.

Yes.

So you're saying it works? I thought the body wouldn't allow its delicate balance to be upset by foreign substances?

Do those rbcs not take up oxygen or are they sort of neutral zombie rbcs?

how does that work? wrote:

Do you believe that EPO gives you more energy?

An exercise physiologist would say it's a stupid question, but that is essentially what they believe.

And they can't explain their beliefs because they don't understand the most basic physiological concepts like thermoregulation.

So I think everyone deserves some answers.

Who has said it gives you more energy? Did you just make that up to sound even dumber?

Do you use energy at the same rate when you are sleeping and racing a 5000?

Yo Sara ian wrote:

how does that work? wrote:

Do you believe that EPO gives you more energy?

An exercise physiologist would say it's a stupid question, but that is essentially what they believe.

And they can't explain their beliefs because they don't understand the most basic physiological concepts like thermoregulation.

So I think everyone deserves some answers.

Who has said it gives you more energy? Did you just make that up to sound even dumber?

Do you use energy at the same rate when you are sleeping and racing a 5000?

So are you saying it doesn't give you more energy?

Make your mind up.

how does that work? wrote:

Yo Sara ian wrote:

Who has said it gives you more energy? Did you just make that up to sound even dumber?

Do you use energy at the same rate when you are sleeping and racing a 5000?

So are you saying it doesn't give you more energy?

Make your mind up.

I never said it gives more energy. You did.

Yo Sara ian wrote:

how does that work? wrote:

Yes.

So you're saying it works? I thought the body wouldn't allow its delicate balance to be upset by foreign substances?

Do those rbcs not take up oxygen or are they sort of neutral zombie rbcs?

Professional cyclists increased their hematocrit by 20-25% Do you believe they increased their V02max by that much?

Or maybe the exercise physiologists who told them it would increase VO2max by whatever % may actually be delusional about Bioenergetics?

Let's ask them shall we and find out how much they know about oxygen kinetics and thermodynamics?

Or will they just ignore the question because they don't understand it?

So should we allow them to poison young people's minds with pseudoscience?

Should we ask wejo and rojo what they think about this?

Also answer the rbcs question. How does EPO increase them without working?

Isn't this what Lance Armstrong did? And if so then shouldn't you be asking him?

how does that work? wrote:

Yo Sara ian wrote:

So you're saying it works? I thought the body wouldn't allow its delicate balance to be upset by foreign substances?

Do those rbcs not take up oxygen or are they sort of neutral zombie rbcs?

Professional cyclists increased their hematocrit by 20-25% Do you believe they increased their V02max by that much?

Or maybe the exercise physiologists who told them it would increase VO2max by whatever % may actually be delusional about Bioenergetics?

Let's ask them shall we and find out how much they know about oxygen kinetics and thermodynamics?

Or will they just ignore the question because they don't understand it?

So should we allow them to poison young people's minds with pseudoscience?

Should we ask wejo and rojo what they think about this?

Nobody said that hematocrit was directly related to VO2 max at the same percentage. Except you.

They are ignoring the question and you because they don't want to embarrass you publicly over your lack of knowledge.

Yo Sara ian wrote:

how does that work? wrote:

Professional cyclists increased their hematocrit by 20-25% Do you believe they increased their V02max by that much?

Or maybe the exercise physiologists who told them it would increase VO2max by whatever % may actually be delusional about Bioenergetics?

Let's ask them shall we and find out how much they know about oxygen kinetics and thermodynamics?

Or will they just ignore the question because they don't understand it?

So should we allow them to poison young people's minds with pseudoscience?

Should we ask wejo and rojo what they think about this?

Nobody said that hematocrit was directly related to VO2 max at the same percentage. Except you.

They are ignoring the question and you because they don't want to embarrass you publicly over your lack of knowledge.

No that is untrue. They simply lack the knowledge of basic science to even understand the concept of Bioenergetics.

John_James_413 wrote:

Isn't this what Lance Armstrong did? And if so then shouldn't you be asking him?

Yes, and 90% of his rivals. People make fantastic claims about his power outputs. They still do it now about recent race performances of current champions.

It's a cult like belief that drugs can deliver superhuman amounts of ATP beyond human limits.

how does that work? wrote:

Yo Sara ian wrote:

Nobody said that hematocrit was directly related to VO2 max at the same percentage. Except you.

They are ignoring the question and you because they don't want to embarrass you publicly over your lack of knowledge.

No that is untrue. They simply lack the knowledge of basic science to even understand the concept of Bioenergetics.

They didn't respond at all.

how does that work? wrote:

John_James_413 wrote:

Isn't this what Lance Armstrong did? And if so then shouldn't you be asking him?

Yes, and 90% of his rivals. People make fantastic claims about his power outputs. They still do it now about recent race performances of current champions.

It's a cult like belief that drugs can deliver superhuman amounts of ATP beyond human limits.

You know what human limits are? Show your data.

You don’t produce more energy you tw@t. You slow down the increase of force output required to transition to anaerobic energy because you have more RBCs to turn over CO2, O2 and other energy byproduct build ups. It’s like you’re blatantly asking a question that you know isn’t the mechanism with which EPO works to pretend you’re intelligent but you’re either a troll or an uneducated moron. To think EPO doesn’t work is to think anemia doesn’t exist. It takes a special type of stupid.

how does that work? wrote:

Does doping with EPO give an athlete more energy?

That's what we are supposed to believe, right?

So how does that work? Where does this extra energy come from?

Assuming it does give you more energy, answering "from where" is easy. It comes from sugar in the blood stream, liver or muscles, or from stored fat. Alcohol and protein are also sources of energy.