Ultra trail runner in need of road shoe for FKT attempt

Sounds like you need to compare a few. I would certainly put the Brooks Hyperion Elite 2 on the short list.

Saucony endorphin speed. 8mm drop and soft but not mushy, upper is comfortable. The plate and the toe spring helps you along it seems. The foam really absorbs the impact and it's fairly light.. One of the best shoes I've ran in.

A couple added to the short list; appreciate it folks!

Peg trail 2

If you like cushioning for a distace that long, try the Nike Turbo 2- it’s fit similar to the narrow Salomon trail shoes and similar fit to the Pegasus.

BUT the Saucony Endorphin Speed has received very high praise from many shoe reviewers. I think the Saucony would be a safe bet if you are only trying one road shoe.

BTW what FKT? Target time? Good luck on your attempt.

You got it in one of the other posts, but I'd second the recommendation on the Saucony Endorphin Speed. Great shoe and gets fantastic reviews, almost universally.

I haven't tried them, but have also heard good things about the carbon-plated Hokas. If you have the chance, maybe try those out? They get dinged for not always feeling as "fast" as some other plated shoes, but for the distance you're thinking, they could have advantages.

It’ll be a trans-TX via Route 66, which is 178 miles...looking to go under 60 hrs; this is a warmup/trial run for a bigger project I’m working on down the line ;D

UltrarunnerTX wrote:

It’ll be a trans-TX via Route 66, which is 178 miles...looking to go under 60 hrs; this is a warmup/trial run for a bigger project I’m working on down the line ;D

60 hrs for 178 miles of road. Is that unsupported?

If not, that is very slow.

I have done 153 miles in under 36 hours.

You should at least go for under 48 hours.

Wow that’s fast; you’re good...when I answered the question I didn’t realize this was a duck measuring contest; hopefully one day I can be as good as you .

This isn’t an insult, so please don’t take offense, I’m just trying to figure out your goal pace:

So I figure 60 hours, you’d want to sleep 6 hours three nights and take 2 hour breaks out of your running time (.5 to eat breakfast, .5 prepare for bed/stretch, and 1 midday break) every day. So you’d run/jog for 36 hours out of those 60. 36 hours over 178 miles is 12:09/mile pace.

Am I thinking about this correctly? Seems possible; challenging, but attainable. Good luck!

idaho/runnr wrote:

This isn’t an insult, so please don’t take offense, I’m just trying to figure out your goal pace:

So I figure 60 hours, you’d want to sleep 6 hours three nights and take 2 hour breaks out of your running time (.5 to eat breakfast, .5 prepare for bed/stretch, and 1 midday break) every day. So you’d run/jog for 36 hours out of those 60. 36 hours over 178 miles is 12:09/mile pace.

Am I thinking about this correctly? Seems possible; challenging, but attainable. Good luck!

Good thinking but I think you need less time for sleep but a lot more for all kinds of small stuff.

Let's break it down

60 hours are 2.5 days

Lets assume the start is on Monday morning at 8am, so you have to run until Wednesday evening at 8pm

So there are basically 3 running days

Monday 16 hours

Break from 12-6am

Tuesday 18 hours

Break from 12 -6am

Wednesday 12 hours

So there are theoretically 46 hours for moving forward but realistically you "waste" at least another 2 hours each day for short stops. The 6 hour break time includes a realistic 3.5 hours of sleep. Trust me on this, you are not getting more sleep out of this.

So there are 40 hours left. That at 4.45 miles per hour. Sounds not much but it is a lot.

What ever you do with your calculations before this run. You will be running a lot slower than you think, you will use up a lot of time for stops and you will sleep a lot less than you think you will.

Ultrarunner speaking here with a lot of multiday running experience.

Did the other one fall off?

UltrarunnerTX wrote:

Wow that’s fast; you’re good...when I answered the question I didn’t realize this was a duck measuring contest; hopefully one day I can be as good as you .

haha "duck measuring contest". Thanks, I'm gonna use that someday.

At work so will dive into the particulars later but the 60 hours is not a stick to a plan and if all goes well that is how fast I’ll go...it is a “I know that is doable goal and in my wheel house” time which stemmed from a 208.4 mile race in the Sangre De Cristo mountain range at 10,000 feet elevation with 42,000 feet of climb in which I completed in just under 86 hrs with 3 hrs sleep (3x1 hr) last September; road running and running fast in general is not my strength, I know this...the A goal if you will is going to be sub-48 with approximately 1 hour sleep...

You’re also welcome for the comedy-gold; but I’m serious Spartathlete, I’m super impressed and think you are just grand...you probably have a big duck too; you’re really fast and I hope you tell us all how experienced you are!

idaho/runnr wrote:

This isn’t an insult, so please don’t take offense, I’m just trying to figure out your goal pace:

So I figure 60 hours, you’d want to sleep 6 hours three nights and take 2 hour breaks out of your running time (.5 to eat breakfast, .5 prepare for bed/stretch, and 1 midday break) every day. So you’d run/jog for 36 hours out of those 60. 36 hours over 178 miles is 12:09/mile pace.

Am I thinking about this correctly? Seems possible; challenging, but attainable. Good luck!

Thanks for posing the question in a respectable and good natured manner man; to be honest the folks over here on letsrun have a bit of a reputation which I see Spartathalon-man exemplifies which is a bit embarrassing but it’s good to know I can come

get involved in a good conversation; this thread has turned out to be pretty informative and fun to see the least!

Come on man have some humor.

If you would have mentioned your 208 mile run, I would have answered differently.

You can only react to the posts written here.

So yes, you are probably be able to do it under 48 hours.

Good luck and enjoy the run!

Nice work man.

John Lacroix is a great guy and RD.

https://humanpotentialrunning.com/sangreresults/

sdfkjbndsbvksndfklvnskdfvkj;sdfnvdfslvbn wrote:

UltrarunnerTX wrote:

Wow that’s fast; you’re good...when I answered the question I didn’t realize this was a duck measuring contest; hopefully one day I can be as good as you .

haha "duck measuring contest". Thanks, I'm gonna use that someday.

Gotta love autocorrect but yeah...going to keep using it too lololol