Something to think about: California yesterday was the #1 state in # of covid cases per capita

And here’s the graphic and link

https://ibb.co/CsqKMDZ

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html

And try and keep the discussion civil. Understanding covid is important. Originally I was tempted not to post under my name but this should be a reasonable discussion

Personally, I believe that the virus mostly determines its own course. We can mitigate some, slowing it down, but it ultimately runs its course. Hopefully, the vaccines will be the game changer. Not sure about California

wejo wrote:

I could see some combination of 1,2, 4. #3 doesn't make sense to me as why would California be worst in the country?

CA is not the worst in the country. You need to look at per capita number (per million). CA is actually #34 of the 50 states. The top states are all mask-avoiding red states.

Here, click the "Tot Cases/1M pop" column to sort.

sit down wrote:

Moderators shouldn’t be posting anonymously on LRC

Are you new here? They have been doing that since the site was created.

(Tennessee is ahead of California today). - GOT IT.

Some interesting observations made here:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/18/us/california-covid-surge-alarming-rise/index.html

A couple of snippets:

"The Covid-19 numbers statewide do not reflect a scenario where more conservative parts of California are failing while liberal parts are thriving, albeit according to state figures some of the hardest struck counties per capita reside in Republican US House districts.

The statistics illustrate the politization of wearing masks and the reluctance to take the threat of Covid-19 seriously has created undue volatility for governments, businesses and individuals alike, and California's surge can serve as notice for the rest of the nation to stay diligent regardless of location."

And also:

"Yet the spike cannot be attributed to Thanksgiving alone. California cases were already beginning to rise earlier in November. State officials at the time directly tied it to Covid-19 fatigue, with more instances of private, indoor gatherings that can expose individuals to greater risk of infection.

"Unfortunately, the stories I hear from the patients, it's all been the same story. People are just having Covid fatigue," Dr. Thomas Yadegar, the ICU director at Providence Cedars-Sinai Tarzana Medical Center, told CNN's Paul Vercammen in an interview Friday"

not worst wrote:

wejo wrote:

I could see some combination of 1,2, 4. #3 doesn't make sense to me as why would California be worst in the country?

CA is not the worst in the country. You need to look at per capita number (per million). CA is actually #34 of the 50 states. The top states are all mask-avoiding red states.

Here, click the "Tot Cases/1M pop" column to sort.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Genius, it's because they're the smallest states in terms of population, so it takes fewer cases to increase the overall case rate. I'm not sure how you can look at the numbers and conclude that is a state with less than a 5% of the amount of cases as CA is doing "better."

Besides, and since you want to make this a partisan issue, when you look at death rate among states, the top states are all science-fearing mask-wearing blue states.

Paradoxical wrote:

not worst wrote:

CA is not the worst in the country. You need to look at per capita number (per million). CA is actually #34 of the 50 states. The top states are all mask-avoiding red states.

Here, click the "Tot Cases/1M pop" column to sort.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Genius, it's because they're the smallest states in terms of population, so it takes fewer cases to increase the overall case rate. I'm not sure how you can look at the numbers and conclude that is a state with less than a 5% of the amount of cases as CA is doing "better."

Besides, and since you want to make this a partisan issue, when you look at death rate among states, the top states are all science-fearing mask-wearing blue states.

Uhhhh...genius. That's why he cited the per capita rate!

not worst wrote:

CA is not the worst in the country. You need to look at per capita number (per million). CA is actually #34 of the 50 states. The top states are all mask-avoiding red states.

That is exactly what I did.

As of yesterday California had the worst 7 day rolling average of COVID cases PER CAPITA in the country.

I pointed out overall historically California is not the worst, but currently (yesterday) they were. Today they are 2nd worst. Trying to understand this is important.

If you want to just say COVID is about blue/state red state/ mandates/no mandates you're fine to believe that but the point I'm making is California with its mandates is currently worst in the US. Why is the question?

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And to pretend COVID is about states are mask avoiding/ red/blue or not is way too simplistic. Or pretendind COVID is way worse in America than Europe, etc.

Deaths per capita the leading states are still the states that got hit last year (NJ, NY, Mass). Treatment wasn't as good then so it' s not a fair comparison.

Cases per capita its the states in the upper midwest that are the worst. Wisconsin is among these states and is a blue state. It's 4th worst per capita. To me that supports the regional/weather argument.

Tennessee is the one state that is very confusing. It's peaking a ton right now.

Paradoxical wrote:

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^ partisan drivel

WEJO: shouldn't this person get an IP ban?

California is 34th if you sort the statistics by cases per 1 million people.

California is only no 1 in total active cases, which is also not surprising because it is a populous state and a lot of people get tested. CA is also the leader in total testing.

So basically nothing to see here.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

I live in the Bay Area. I can tell you from direct observation that essentially nobody is paying any attention to the so-called lockdown orders currently in effect. Zero decrease in auto traffic. Zero decrease in foot traffic . . .

One thing to keep in mind is that CA is a big state and some areas are much worse than others. SoCal has been hit really hard and it accounts for most to the deaths and the high case rate. Compare the Bay Area to SoCal and there is a huge difference. So this needs to be taken into account in coming up with an explanation.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/california-coronavirus-cases.html

You have to know how to read statistics wrote:

California is 34th if you sort the statistics by cases per 1 million people.

California is only no 1 in total active cases, which is also not surprising because it is a populous state and a lot of people get tested. CA is also the leader in total testing.

So basically nothing to see here.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

GAME, SET & MATCH.

Then your basis is "current" 7-day rolling average, and NOT overall totals. You should edit your thread title to make that clear because "absolute number" and "yesterday" confuse what you are trying to get at.

Valid. Wejo will make the change the title now that you’ve shown he made a mistake.

You have to know how to read statistics wrote:

California is 34th if you sort the statistics by cases per 1 million people.

California is only no 1 in total active cases, which is also not surprising because it is a populous state and a lot of people get tested. CA is also the leader in total testing.

So basically nothing to see here.

Please look at the link I am citing. It is from the NY Times and is

Current Cases PER CAPITA.

This has nothing to do with California having the post people.

The whole point of noting this is that California now currently the 2nd worst state in the country in terms of covid cases per capita. It's just not the narrative most of us can wrap our heads around.

Here's your top 5 today:

COVID CASES PER 100,000 population last 7 days from NYTimes

1) Tennessee 108.2

2) California 102.2

3) Arizona 83.4

4) Oklahoma 74.5

5) Indiana 72.6

Link :

Yesterday it as California #1 at 92.2, Tennessee #2 at 88.8

Why does Tennessee have the MOST cases? Why aren’t you talking about this? What agenda are you pushing?