Should state supported schools offer scholarships to international student athletes?

Why would we want to only offer scholarships to American slobs just because they're American? We should be trying to attract the top talent, athletically and academically, no matter where they're from.

It should motivate American kids to train harder! I’m a European high school age guy and a lot of my friends have a spot at an American college as a top motivation

State U is funded by state taxpayers.

Should Univ. of Oregon recruit only within the state of Oregon?

work!! wrote:

It should motivate American kids to train harder! I’m a European high school age guy and a lot of my friends have a spot at an American college as a top motivation

But should my government (both state and federal) take money from me under threat of fine or imprisonment and give it to a school that then offers financial incentives to you and/or your friends?

Perhaps apportioned based on the percentage of state and federal funding.

CrispyChicken wrote:

work!! wrote:

It should motivate American kids to train harder! I’m a European high school age guy and a lot of my friends have a spot at an American college as a top motivation

But should my government (both state and federal) take money from me under threat of fine or imprisonment and give it to a school that then offers financial incentives to you and/or your friends?

You'd rather they give it to david45 or Sham69?

I believe no. US athletes only unless the foreign scholarship is specifically funded by a donor or donors for that express purpose.

If the foreign student is < 23 years of age during the competitive season in question.

I don't think that age limit should be extended under any circumstances, to include red-shirting, injuries, military service, or anything.

Just Another LRC Idiot wrote:

State U is funded by state taxpayers.

Should Univ. of Oregon recruit only within the state of Oregon?

I've always answered this question with a resounding "Yes"! Local taxpayer funded scholarships should go to local student-athletes.

Just Another LRC Idiot wrote:

State U is funded by state taxpayers.

Should Univ. of Oregon recruit only within the state of Oregon?

Why should Americans play for foreigners to come here to play sports?

Agreed! Any scholarships that count against the NCAA limits should be reserved for domestic athletes only. There should also be a hard limit on international athletes per team (3) and those athlete's should be funded from outside of the university (self/family/federation/home government money).

Wow! Lots of negativity on here concerning non US student athletes.

I have no dog in the fight and no real opinion other than people are people regardless of which side of a line they reside.

I have always been under the impression that universities, including state funded, receive large amounts of federal dollars for each international student they enroll. This is above and beyond what they get for out-of-state students and it comes from the fed. If this has any teeth then universities would encourage international students, in athletics or not, to get the fed money.

Does anyone have any knowledge if this is true?

CrispyChicken wrote:

I have perceived an increase in the number of international students participating on scholarship in NCAA sports, thus perhaps denying scholarship opportunities for U.S. citizens. In one recent press release with respect to a Women's T&F program at a state (i.e. taxpayer) supported school, perhaps half the recruits were from countries other than the U.S. Does international college recruiting dampen the motivation of U.S. high school athletes? Were the gender equity provisions of Title IX intended to benefit the entire world, or just U.S. residents?

So THIS again?! So for the millionth time: athletic scholarships are not funded with taxpayer money. Seriously guys - write it down if you can't remember it because this gets so tiring and old.

Side note - if you're upset that you didn't get a scholarship to run D1 - work harder and run faster - novel concept, I know.

This, for yet again the millionth time. Money for athletic scholarships does not come from money given to a university by the taxpayers. It comes either from revenue generated by the athletic department itself, ticket sales, parking and concessions at events, TV revenue, alumni and booster donations, etc. It actually costs taxpayers of a particular state LESS to have a scholarship athlete from out of state or from a foreign country than it costs to have one from their own state because an in state athlete has part of his/her costs paid by the state, roughly about half the total cost with the athletic department paying the rest, while an out of state or country athlete's cost is fully paid by the athletic department.

I support foreign athletes because I support American values. American values like open competition and pursuit of excellence. The US is all about bringing the best together and letting them compete. We all benefit from this. If you want a good restaurant scene in your city, you want your city to attract chefs from all over the world. If you want to find good music, you don't restrict your search to your own geographic area. If you want to have the best collegiate athletics possible, you let teams recruit the best.

If you aren't a good enough runner to compete with the best, find something you do excel at and pursue that instead of demanding protectionist policy to let you do something that you objectively are not great at.

Not funded directly, but what about the supporting facilities? The taxpayer money does go to the infrastructure of the school. What athletic scholarship opportunities do U.S. students have at overseas universities? Seem to be somewhat of a trade imbalance, so to speak

In a real world people should want international athletes. For example university of oregon athletics scholarships are funded by the athletics dept (Nike, tv deals, donations, ticket sales) and the athletics dept pays the school!”” money for the scholarship so for a random Canadian kid the athletics department may pay the school 50k but for an instate kid they may only pay the school 30k. Because this Canadian kid came to school the school actually “made” 20k.

HRE wrote:

Money for athletic scholarships does not come from money given to a university by the taxpayers. It comes either from revenue generated by the athletic department itself, ticket sales, parking and concessions at events, TV revenue, alumni and booster donations, etc..

What about non-Power 5 that lose millions on football and basketball. After paying for those sports with the money sources you listed, where does the money for their debt and non-revenue sports come from?