The Official Jan Stensson / DANCAN system thread

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The Wizard JS wrote:

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356 wrote:

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The Wizard JS wrote:

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Ghost1 wrote:

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SouthernFriedRealist wrote:
JS says he trained improperly back in the day and would have broken 28:00 with better training. I don't think anyone here, but you want to hear from him.

He's been proven to be a liar, egomaniac, and a poor coach.

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Ok, but he did run 1420, 2950 and 106, four or 5000 m, 10,000 m and half Marathon.

So maybe JS could indicate to us the type of training he did to achieve those very decent times which as I said before most people on this website have not achieved to my knowledge.

Also, he’s a very good resource when it comes to providing historical facts about Swedish runners of which she seems to have an encyclopedic knowledge.

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You have a very good point there Ghost! :) The only thing I had chainged in my training back then is to run lactate threshold pace at half marathon race pace witch I didn`t do. That`s the key to produce and recycle energy to run faster and faster until you reach your optimal level possible. The never ending story! Cheers!
My normal week back then at the -80s looked like this:
M: 12-16 km at 4 min / km
Tu: 20 x 400m at 68 sec with rest back to 120 bpm ( about 1 min rest) or 6-8 x 800m at 2:16 with same rest back to 120 bpm
We: 12-16 km at 4 min/ km
Th: 12-16 km at 4 min/ km
Fr: 8-12 km at 4 min / km
Sa: 20-32 km at 4 min / km
Su: Day off

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And you trained like that all the time, and didn't try new things? Moron.

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You are the Moron and I see you haven`t learned the Magic Wizard history! I have tried almost everything known when it comes to training systems up to the time known when I was active as an elite national runner. Go back to your Moron cave ! LoL

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356 wrote:

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The Wizard JS wrote:

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356 wrote:

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The Wizard JS wrote:

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Ghost1 wrote:

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SouthernFriedRealist wrote:
JS says he trained improperly back in the day and would have broken 28:00 with better training. I don't think anyone here, but you want to hear from him.

He's been proven to be a liar, egomaniac, and a poor coach.

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Ok, but he did run 1420, 2950 and 106, four or 5000 m, 10,000 m and half Marathon.

So maybe JS could indicate to us the type of training he did to achieve those very decent times which as I said before most people on this website have not achieved to my knowledge.

Also, he’s a very good resource when it comes to providing historical facts about Swedish runners of which she seems to have an encyclopedic knowledge.

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You have a very good point there Ghost! :) The only thing I had chainged in my training back then is to run lactate threshold pace at half marathon race pace witch I didn`t do. That`s the key to produce and recycle energy to run faster and faster until you reach your optimal level possible. The never ending story! Cheers!
My normal week back then at the -80s looked like this:
M: 12-16 km at 4 min / km
Tu: 20 x 400m at 68 sec with rest back to 120 bpm ( about 1 min rest) or 6-8 x 800m at 2:16 with same rest back to 120 bpm
We: 12-16 km at 4 min/ km
Th: 12-16 km at 4 min/ km
Fr: 8-12 km at 4 min / km
Sa: 20-32 km at 4 min / km
Su: Day off

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And you trained like that all the time, and didn't try new things? Moron.

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You are the Moron and I see you haven`t learned the Magic Wizard history! I have tried almost everything known when it comes to training systems up to the time known when I was active as an elite national runner. Go back to your Moron cave ! LoL

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You didn't try LT pace for ages. You are a moron. You wasted your talent. And now you are trying to make people believe you are magic.
You are as magic as a giant turd.

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The Wizard JS wrote:

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356 wrote:

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The Wizard JS wrote:

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356 wrote:

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The Wizard JS wrote:

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Ghost1 wrote:

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SouthernFriedRealist wrote:
JS says he trained improperly back in the day and would have broken 28:00 with better training. I don't think anyone here, but you want to hear from him.

He's been proven to be a liar, egomaniac, and a poor coach.

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Ok, but he did run 1420, 2950 and 106, four or 5000 m, 10,000 m and half Marathon.

So maybe JS could indicate to us the type of training he did to achieve those very decent times which as I said before most people on this website have not achieved to my knowledge.

Also, he’s a very good resource when it comes to providing historical facts about Swedish runners of which she seems to have an encyclopedic knowledge.

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You have a very good point there Ghost! :) The only thing I had chainged in my training back then is to run lactate threshold pace at half marathon race pace witch I didn`t do. That`s the key to produce and recycle energy to run faster and faster until you reach your optimal level possible. The never ending story! Cheers!
My normal week back then at the -80s looked like this:
M: 12-16 km at 4 min / km
Tu: 20 x 400m at 68 sec with rest back to 120 bpm ( about 1 min rest) or 6-8 x 800m at 2:16 with same rest back to 120 bpm
We: 12-16 km at 4 min/ km
Th: 12-16 km at 4 min/ km
Fr: 8-12 km at 4 min / km
Sa: 20-32 km at 4 min / km
Su: Day off

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And you trained like that all the time, and didn't try new things? Moron.

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You are the Moron and I see you haven`t learned the Magic Wizard history! I have tried almost everything known when it comes to training systems up to the time known when I was active as an elite national runner. Go back to your Moron cave ! LoL

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You didn't try LT pace for ages. You are a moron. You wasted your talent. And now you are trying to make people believe you are magic.
You are as magic as a giant turd.

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Why do you just repeat things I already have told here??? I have so many times declared that LT interval reps was the only important factor that I lacked in my training.If I had known back then how important they are I of course had changed my training to use them frequently and then had run much faster times than I did.

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356 wrote:

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The Wizard JS wrote:

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356 wrote:

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The Wizard JS wrote:

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356 wrote:

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The Wizard JS wrote:

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Ghost1 wrote:

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SouthernFriedRealist wrote:
JS says he trained improperly back in the day and would have broken 28:00 with better training. I don't think anyone here, but you want to hear from him.

He's been proven to be a liar, egomaniac, and a poor coach.

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Ok, but he did run 1420, 2950 and 106, four or 5000 m, 10,000 m and half Marathon.

So maybe JS could indicate to us the type of training he did to achieve those very decent times which as I said before most people on this website have not achieved to my knowledge.

Also, he’s a very good resource when it comes to providing historical facts about Swedish runners of which she seems to have an encyclopedic knowledge.

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You have a very good point there Ghost! :) The only thing I had chainged in my training back then is to run lactate threshold pace at half marathon race pace witch I didn`t do. That`s the key to produce and recycle energy to run faster and faster until you reach your optimal level possible. The never ending story! Cheers!
My normal week back then at the -80s looked like this:
M: 12-16 km at 4 min / km
Tu: 20 x 400m at 68 sec with rest back to 120 bpm ( about 1 min rest) or 6-8 x 800m at 2:16 with same rest back to 120 bpm
We: 12-16 km at 4 min/ km
Th: 12-16 km at 4 min/ km
Fr: 8-12 km at 4 min / km
Sa: 20-32 km at 4 min / km
Su: Day off

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And you trained like that all the time, and didn't try new things? Moron.

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You are the Moron and I see you haven`t learned the Magic Wizard history! I have tried almost everything known when it comes to training systems up to the time known when I was active as an elite national runner. Go back to your Moron cave ! LoL

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You didn't try LT pace for ages. You are a moron. You wasted your talent. And now you are trying to make people believe you are magic.
You are as magic as a giant turd.

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Why do you just repeat things I already have told here??? I have so many times declared that LT interval reps was the only important factor that I lacked in my training.If I had known back then how important they are I of course had changed my training to use them frequently and then had run much faster times than I did.

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I am just saying you are a moron for not having experimented LT pace back then.
I know a 2:16 and a 2:19 athletes (from the 80s, so about your age), who included in their training "runs that are a bit hard but not too hard". That was around their LT pace.

The fact that you never experimented with it reveals more of what you are today: incapable of change when you do something that doesn't work.

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The Wizard JS wrote:

Now you show again that your intellect lacks a lot! Just read again what you wrote.I really did something that worked very best in my running career!

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The Wizard JS wrote:
but now runners of all levels can get the advantage of my experiences and run faster than they just could dream about before taking on the system.

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356 wrote:

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The Wizard JS wrote:

Now you show again that your intellect lacks a lot! Just read again what you wrote.I really did something that worked very best in my running career!

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Hey moron, I have just told you that runners in the 80s were already having success with paces that they didn't know were LT but were actually around that.

Just read what you wrote, moron. You did something that worked very best, yet you say you could have run 2:15 and you only ran 2:22

Maybe that's the philosophy you are applying with Sammy. 2:14 -> 2:19
Works the very best!

- Magic moron! -

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The Wizard JS wrote:

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356 wrote:

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The Wizard JS wrote:

Now you show again that your intellect lacks a lot! Just read again what you wrote.I really did something that worked very best in my running career!

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Hey moron, I have just told you that runners in the 80s were already having success with paces that they didn't know were LT but were actually around that.

Just read what you wrote, moron. You did something that worked very best, yet you say you could have run 2:15 and you only ran 2:22

Maybe that's the philosophy you are applying with Sammy. 2:14 -> 2:19
Works the very best!

- Magic moron! -

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One more time you show your intellect are disabled! You seem to have reading problems also?
I wrote I did something very best up to what I know about when it went and ran my PB:s...!.I repeat for you to read once more, I didn`t know about the important benefits of paces around half marathon race pace back then and therefore didn`t do that crucial paces! Now, did you get it??

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I am going for a run now. You should too, fat boy.
Your thread about breaking world records is just another of your scams to get attention from potential clients.
Idiot, at least for once do what you said you were going to do.

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Ghost1 wrote:
In addition athletes operate in a liberal market in which they can change coaches if it does not suit their purpose and most athletes are savvy and intelligent enough to know when results are coming or the contrary.

The best way to learn something is to actually do it and that is to combine theory and practice and Iten, Eldoret, and Kapsabet are the perfect laboratory settings to learn the theory and practice, the actual action of becoming a world class distance runner because there are hundreds if not thousands of athletes there training for the same goal which is to reach the pinnacle in distance running.

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Trond Gudmundsson wrote:

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The Wizard JS wrote:
but now runners of all levels can get the advantage of my experiences and run faster than they just could dream about before taking on the system.

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Your runners run slower.
Phil ran slower (cut the 10 mile crap, you were coaching him to run a marathon), Slava got slower, Sammy Nyokaye is getting slower.

Idiot.

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fake coaches wrote:

if you have approached a coach based on their false credentials then this is just poor behavior by the coach as they are wasting people's time and are technically committing fraud. You could also be spending more time than you should with a coach who has lied about his credentials if you believed his lies – you might have the mentality – “well he says he ran such and such times or that he coached athletes x, y and z so why is his training not working with me? – I must be doing something wrong…”.

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fake coaches wrote:

I would hope that most coaches who have lied about their credentials will eventually be outed.

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The Wizard JS wrote:

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Trond Gudmundsson wrote:

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The Wizard JS wrote:
but now runners of all levels can get the advantage of my experiences and run faster than they just could dream about before taking on the system.

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Your runners run slower.
Phil ran slower (cut the 10 mile crap, you were coaching him to run a marathon), Slava got slower, Sammy Nyokaye is getting slower.

Idiot.

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No ! They don`t! You are wrong again . Phil ran a 2:33 marathon , with too fast first 10 k and ruined his chances of a faster time . Anyway he ran a 2:33 and the fastest after 10 years delay ( 2:22 PB i think ? ). He ran a new PB at halfway at HM and 1:10:02 . He ran a new PB at 10 miles . He ran faster at 5 k:s than in many years and close to 15 min solo. Slava got faster all the time until his old foot injury started to trouble him. An injury he didn`t tell me in the beginning of my coaching of him . He told himself I wasn`t to blame for that injury! Sammy have done some great pacemaking like his 1:03 half in Barcelona and a couple of other very fine pacemaking in China marathons. Last half year he has done the very best training results in his running career. We just wait for this pandemic to have an end and the races in Europe, America and Asia can start again to show his great shape. You and the other stalkers will be surprised ........

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356 wrote:

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The Wizard JS wrote:

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356 wrote:

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The Wizard JS wrote:

Now you show again that your intellect lacks a lot! Just read again what you wrote.I really did something that worked very best in my running career!

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Hey moron, I have just told you that runners in the 80s were already having success with paces that they didn't know were LT but were actually around that.

Just read what you wrote, moron. You did something that worked very best, yet you say you could have run 2:15 and you only ran 2:22

Maybe that's the philosophy you are applying with Sammy. 2:14 -> 2:19
Works the very best!

- Magic moron! -

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One more time you show your intellect are disabled! You seem to have reading problems also?
I wrote I did something very best up to what I know about when it went and ran my PB:s...!.I repeat for you to read once more, I didn`t know about the important benefits of paces around half marathon race pace back then and therefore didn`t do that crucial paces! Now, did you get it??

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So now you are insulting my intellect? Well you can go screw yourself.
You did not experiment with LT pace for any amount of time or you would have seen the benefits.
Go to school, learn to read, and don't be a moron.

Oh and your training sucks and you are a moron.

Now, did you get it, you moron idiot?

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fake coaches wrote:

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Ghost1 wrote:
In addition athletes operate in a liberal market in which they can change coaches if it does not suit their purpose and most athletes are savvy and intelligent enough to know when results are coming or the contrary.

The best way to learn something is to actually do it and that is to combine theory and practice and Iten, Eldoret, and Kapsabet are the perfect laboratory settings to learn the theory and practice, the actual action of becoming a world class distance runner because there are hundreds if not thousands of athletes there training for the same goal which is to reach the pinnacle in distance running.

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I sort of see this point but a lot of very keen runners will not have any opportunity to travel to Kenya or other big training centres. They will have work and family commitments, which make this impossible. These are the sorts of runners who could be seeking advice online especially today with many countries in lockdown with no possibility to train in groups. Yes, most keen runners will figure out if a coach's training does not work but this won't necessarily happen immediately, the general principle is to give things time to see, and you could easily lose a season or two which is a chunk of time out of your competitive running days and for a top level amateur this could mean missing out on something such as the Olympic trials. This can happen with any online coach but if you have approached a coach based on their false credentials then this is just poor behavior by the coach as they are wasting people's time and are technically committing fraud. You could also be spending more time than you should with a coach who has lied about his credentials if you believed his lies – you might have the mentality – “well he says he ran such and such times or that he coached athletes x, y and z so why is his training not working with me? – I must be doing something wrong…”.

Coaches who have been proven to lie about their credentials should certainly never be allowed to coach minor athletes or athletes with disabilities and in some way they should be made accountable if they have misled others. I don’t know enough about coach JS to judge whether he has lied about his credentials; I guess that others on this thread know him much better than I do to make a judgement. Overall today there is more and more information accessible over the internet so over time I would hope that most coaches who have lied about their credentials will eventually be outed.

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Good night and Peace out, as it is now 23:45 pm in Marseille, France.

Bonne nuit et la paix à tous et à toutes.

À toute, Ghost1.

News from Sweden is that the country is basically closed because of Covid protocols. Those intending to visit may have to wait.....

No chance to visit at this time.

When will this nightmare end? Nobody knows.