wejo wrote:
seattle prattle wrote:
Rojo, I believe you are making a mistake by taking a side in this debate. Owner's of the site should at least create the appearance of impartiality on controversial issues, like this.
In all due respect for you and your site, I will leave it at that, though i would ask you to reconsider posting such things.
From a PR standpoint using the words Fauci and lie is not a good idea but that's Rojo.
Expressing the idea that Robert did that he wished Fauci would tell the public what he truly believed instead of what he thought they wanted to hear should not be controversial. It's a perfectly reasonable belief.
But once Fauci and the word "lie" are put together it is going to bring controversy.
I think we can agree that this is a very charged issue, And one need only look to the dozens of impassioned responses herein as evidence.
What concerns me is how many of these seem to find it evidence that they need not follow established recommendations for covid avoidance put out by Faucci, NIH, CDC, stage Health "experts", scientists, and as reported by the main stream media.
My view is that a) everyone admits that they don't know the precise number of cases it would take to achieve "herd immunity", b) Faucci said from the beginning that recommendations and strategies would change and evolve, c) he (Faucci) always gave a range when discussing the percent needed for herd immunity, and d) that number has increased steadily to the higher end of the range, and in fact, the latest range even pushes past the upper limits first quoted. Faucci also acknowledged that he would bias the numbers slightly to be as effective as possible to achieve safe outcomes from an medical, epidemiological perspective. Really, should we expect any less?
Do we classify that as a lie? Do we approach it in a time of a pandemic with lead-ins like "What the hell."
Or do we try to understand the larger picture, that things and data have changed, and there is a need to sugar-coat disclosures sometimes for good purposes and outcomes.
Again, they really don't know the right number, and these are all guess-timates.
In a nutshell, the guess-timate was on the low side as the public was getting used to the notion, and on the higher side as we approach stages approaching the final push.
So, be posting like Rojo did, he emboldened those that don't want to listen to science and now feel that an otherwise reasonable person like even Rojo says that's okay.
That's not good. And that is not what we need as a team to beat this.