What was your worst shoe purhcase of 2020? Mine was the....

running2begood wrote:

i can’t bake i’ve there is so so many haters of the peg 37s. favorite trainer ever. the air zoom pocket in the front makes a smooth bouncy ride and the extra react foam the added makes it amazing for long runs. i am a mid foot/forefoot striker so maybe that has something to do with it? i’m interesting to hear what kind of foot strikes you guys have who hate the 37s.

I’m a midfoot/forefoot striker. I don’t hate the Pegasus 37 but it is far from a perfect shoe. After 100 miles the air zoom units feel completely lifeless. Also, one shoe has a noticeable squeak in the air zoom unit.

For me, the fit is very comfortable. If you have a wide or even slightly wider than average foot, this shoe will be a nightmare for you. Not as bad as the Rincon though.

The Peg 37 feels okay on easy runs and mid length long runs but can feel quite harsh after 65-75 mins. I wouldn’t want to be wearing it on a run of 16+ miles.

React foam gets incredibly hard in cold weather. It felt like I was running with bricks on my feet in -15C weather.

Also, the shoe is heavy. It’s fine for running easy but when you pick up the pace it is very noticeable. During a long tempo I could really notice the weight of the shoe in the last couple miles. It’s not something you want to be thinking about when you’re starting to suffer.

I just don’t think it does any job very well. I only use it on mid week long ish runs followed by some strides.

super interesting. the shoe is definitely heavier than the 36s but to me the ride is much smoother. the shoe holds up well for me for my 13 mile long runs but i never run longer than that. everyone is different!! what other shoes do you use for easy/long runs?

Even after 100 km, the Peg 37 never softened up for me. It feels harsh underfoot unless I’m running under 4min/km... yet it never truly feels smooth. I don’t feel any of the bounciness that some users describe, and the upper doesn’t have any give to it, considering my wider feet. The stiffness combined with the stack height doesn’t work for my stride at all. While the differences between the shoes may be subtle for some, it makes a world of difference for me. I don’t have a good history with higher stack shoes though—Hoka Clifton 1: knee problems; NB 1080v10: ankle problems; Hoka Carbon X: stiff, heavy-feeling, hard. The only high-stack shoe I love is the Vaporfly Next%... but we’re talking about daily trainers here!

Back to Peg 36, it’s the shoe that has seen me through my best training cycles since I got back into running 2.5 years ago. While it may be seen as an average/run-of-the-mill shoe, I find that it does everything surprisingly well! It doesn’t feel heavy (nor light), it’s only moderately cushioned but I’ve comfortably taken it up 20 km (I’m an 800/1500 guy), the upper is superb for me, and it’s smooth at nearly all paces. Maybe I’m waxing lyrically, but it’s one of my favorite shoes of all time. I say Nike make a vintage re-issue like Hoka has done with the Clifton and the Bondi!

Hi,

I didn't like the men's version of the Nike Peg 37, to firm on the forefoot and stiff. The woman's version of peg 37 was much better, softer, more flexible and easier at all paces for me, The other shoe I didn't like was the 1080 v10, sent them back after two runs found lifeless compared to the Asics Novablast and the Reebok Symmetros.

Cheers

Steve.

Salomon Sense Ride 3... poor update to the Ride 2... much more maximal, heavier, and clunkier. Just not a fan. Waiting for the update already and have reverted back to the 2's. I've at least put in some miles as a recovery shoe in these because they are more substantial.

Brooks Catamount... what a disaster. Seemed so promising. I'm not sure what they consider trails, but I get about 1000ft per every 6 miles where I train with relentless terrain. The Catamount upper and heel/fit was only made for running on flat trails. Any steep descent you slide to the front of the shoe. Shoe is a disaster. Thankfully, sent them back immediately. Am sure they'll fix this on the second version.

I hate to say it, but I've been really disappointed in my Brooks Launch 7s. This is coming from someone who has loved the Launch ever since the Launch 2, and probably run through 20 pairs of them. But they did something to the midsole of the 7 that renders it way too firm. My legs feel beat up after even short 4-5 mile runs in them.

Anyone have an experience with the Adidas Supernova? Just bought a pair because they were cheap in the post Christmas deals

Trackfan55 wrote:

Anyone have an experience with the Adidas Supernova? Just bought a pair because they were cheap in the post Christmas deals

I have the winter ready supernova shoes. Where I live we have harsh winters, lots of snow, ice, up to -40c with the windchill. I like the shoe actually.

Pros: very comfortable, good outsole grip, warm, water repellent, not wide and not narrow. Price! They’re very affordable.

Cons: HEAVY. it’s a real heavy shoe. It’s also heel heavy, like some of adidas shoes. I wish it wasn’t 10mm drop, which you can really feel when combined with the heavy heel.

I like the shoe. It doesn’t give me any problems. I use it for easy running only. I imagine that trying to pick up the pace would be a bit of a nightmare.

All of this being said, keep in mind I have the ‘winter ready’ version and the regular version may differ a lot.

Standard Setter wrote:

Brooks Catamount... what a disaster. Seemed so promising. I'm not sure what they consider trails, but I get about 1000ft per every 6 miles where I train with relentless terrain. The Catamount upper and heel/fit was only made for running on flat trails. Any steep descent you slide to the front of the shoe. Shoe is a disaster. Thankfully, sent them back immediately. Am sure they'll fix this on the second version.

They did...at least on the test shoes I was sent.

Cool, thank you for the review! I use the 1080s for faster long runs and tend to be able to change into flats for anything that the 1080s can’t handle. A heavy, comfy shoe for easy days and doubles is actually just what I was looking for

amkelley wrote:

Reebok Floatride Energy 2. Extremely stiff, clunky feeling, and way heavier than any of my other shoes. I wore them a few times and then gave up. Fortunately I'd bought them on Amazon for $30, so it wasn't much of a loss.

You are the only person I have heard from that dislikes the FFE2...except me! /high five

These things are stiff like moccasins underfoot, and relatively cavernous through the midfoot, considering the otherwise minimal look/feel. I put 100 miles on them hoping they would soften up, but no luck. I compare the midsole to stepping on wet cardboard laid over hard concrete--there's just the hint of cushion and then BAM, hard as rock. I bought mine at a retail store, so I believe they are legit.

I otherwise run in React (Pegs, Infinity) or Boost (Boston 6-9), so it's not like I'm not used to firmer midsoles either ?‍♂️

Love the peg 37's, hate mushy shoes and these are perfect for daily trainers.

Infinity React is terrible, can't figure out upper. Only shoe I ever had that I feel like is coming off my feet and the uppers are somehow noisy around the ankle they fit so bad.

SHOES OF 2020

ASICS® NOVABLAST™ - My Favorite. Great ride for an everyday shoe.

Saucony® Triumph - Heavy as hell but will last forever. Ditch for speed days

HOKA Men's Rincon 2 - Seth DeMoor talked me into these. Not the best fit for me. took me 100 miles to break in.

yup- wrote:

Infinity React is terrible, can't figure out upper. Only shoe I ever had that I feel like is coming off my feet and the uppers are somehow noisy around the ankle they fit so bad.

Same - hate the Infinity React for these reasons. I was very excited to try these but they ended up being one of the weirdest, most uncomfortable shoes I have ever run in. I got about 200M on them and couldnt bring myself to do one more run in them.

ast wrote:

yup- wrote:

Infinity React is terrible, can't figure out upper. Only shoe I ever had that I feel like is coming off my feet and the uppers are somehow noisy around the ankle they fit so bad.

Same - hate the Infinity React for these reasons. I was very excited to try these but they ended up being one of the weirdest, most uncomfortable shoes I have ever run in. I got about 200M on them and couldnt bring myself to do one more run in them.

Huh. Must be a foot shape or a stride thing. I think they are fine. Not great, but fine.

Can anyone explain the difference between all of the react shoes? I have Epic React Flyknit 2 which I like. But there are so many negative comments about so many other react models that I am afraid to try them.

Shorty boy wrote:

Can anyone explain the difference between all of the react shoes? I have Epic React Flyknit 2 which I like. But there are so many negative comments about so many other react models that I am afraid to try them.

They all have pretty different shapes / uppers. I think that's why there are such differing opinions on them. I think the Infinity is somewhat similar to the Epic but with a bit more stability and a higher arch. It may be a little lighter than the Epic, too?

37s were crap. Took 'em out of the box and put them right back in.

But at the end of the year I've bought a pair of the shield versions and still hate them but use them. Shield versions and I went up half a size and it barely fits (heel sucks). Still hard as fluck and everyone wonders why I'm so loud running in them.

Rincon 2 as the others said were way too narrow. I put them on and wore them barefoot. Felt great for walking around. Next day go for a run and within 10s saying wtf did I do? I tried 2 runs in total before I stopped torturing myself.

LT4s - I'm not sure why I bought them. Maybe okay for grass but pretty sucky for asphalt/pavement/treadmill. I feel too much of the ground.

Since I forget how long this year was I bought the NB rebels like in Dec/Jan last year. Remember wearing them a bit in Jan-March. They suck so hard. Throw my feet inward so awkward.

Every once in a while I'll put them back on bc I've tried to give them away and were sent right back - and remind myself how awful they are. Can't even walk in them due to the falling in feeling. I should just throw 'em out.