Reebok Boston's Martin Hehir scores HUGE PB and win for adidas at Marathon Project in 2:08:59

Conventional wisdom is that a bouncy stride like that is inefficient but sports scientists will tell you that if it works and you're not getting injured then you shouldn't modify your form. An interesting aside on this is that I know someone who works in shoe development for one of the big companies. They have said that runners with that a bouncy stride get less benefit from the supershoe combo of plate and springy foam. Makes sense as the shoes are optimised for high end elites like Kipchoge who have smooth form

8minpace wrote:

Sub 2:10 and sub-4:00...A SMALL CROWD

Sheesh, it just gets more impressive. Wonder how long that list is?

Faster than ever wrote:

I can go along with that. It is unfair to be critical of fast runners while we allow slower runners to express their times in general terms. If I run 2:52:55 and I tell you that my PR is 2:52, I don't think that anyone would have a problem with that.

LOL, trying to compare your 2:52 to a 2:08:59 guy, eh?

So I guess when Benji Durden gets asked what his fastest time is and he responds 2:09, then he's just as fast as Greg Meyer with his 2:09:00. Coincidentally, they ran those times in the same race, so apparently they tied and Greg doesn't know about it...LOL!!!!!!!!!

You're a sub 2:53 marathoner, that's why you'd respond like that.

Cornbread fed wrote:

Sheesh, it just gets more impressive. Wonder how long that list is?

For Americans it is as follows:

Galen Rupp (2:06, 3:30)

Ryan Hall (2:0debatable, 3:42 1500m)

Dathan Ritzenhein (2:07, 3:42 1500m) not strictly speaking a conversion but come on, it's Ritz

Martin Hehir (2:08, 3:59)

I think that's it.

*rupp 3:50

*hall's 1500 was 3:42 low, while ritz's was 3:42.99. The conversion is somewhere between the two.

Alan Culpepper, Rupp, Hehir.

Well, Greg Meyer 2:09.00 with no springs attached and 3:59 indoors within 4 months of each

bfnbehajsjs wrote:

outsider69 wrote:

NOPE the dude ran 2:08. He is a 2:08 marathoner.

+1

Except for the most obsessive fans no one cares about the seconds when talking about marathon PRs.

Kenenisa Bekele, is that you?

The obsession over the nuances of shoe vs. shoe is getting a bit much, and I feel like only the Brojos are worried about it at this point. Adidas has clearly caught up, which was the major domino that needed to fall. There's always been marginal advantages between shoes going back to Boost tech, Streaks, flats and so on. Right now, it feels like everyone (regardless of brand) is gaining 1:30-2:30 in the marathon. 2:03 is the new 2:05. 2:09 is the new 2:11 and so on.

Who runs worse (allegedly) in the supershoes? The only person who has been seriously suggested is Molly Huddle. No offense to her, but she's a marginal competitor on the world stage at the Marathon. Her struggles seem to be completely flukish. She was a great track runner and is suited for the Half as well. Can anyone think of a single athlete who is struggling and not thriving (time-wise) due to the supershoes? Don't think you can...they help everyone.

Reebok Boston? Doesn't he live in Philly?

Cornbread fed wrote:

*hall's 1500 was 3:42 low, while ritz's was 3:42.99. The conversion is somewhere between the two.

Is that Hall's PR from high school? I know Ritzenhein's is from freshman year of college. Safe to say they were both good for it.

mofarah44 wrote:

Reebok Boston? Doesn't he live in Philly?

Yes and the group is based out of Charlottesville Virginia.

mofarah44 wrote:

Reebok Boston? Doesn't he live in Philly?

Breaking news, thanks.

Odds are he is about 300k in debt right now (based on the average med student). You don't make money in med school, you pay big $$$ to be there. There isn't good pay afterwards either. Salary in residency evens out to $10-12 a hour normally. Sure, later on bigger paychecks come but the road there is not a fun or wealthy one. You would be hard pressed to find other people willing to pay to be exposed to COVID on the daily.