I did 6 long runs this week. Helpful or detrimental?

Bro this looks like half marathon training... Tone it down a lot!

it sounds good to me

I approve of your training. Now is the time to experiment, and to treat injuries cautiously.

Sham 69 wrote:

Bro this looks like half marathon training... Tone it down a lot!

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Injury from playing basketball...you and a doctor will have to determine how bad.

That kind of injury might take a month to heal properly. High quality speed work will revive the injury until it is healed, and you will be starting almost from scratch to heal.

See how you feel with the high mileage...not much else you can do because of the injury, even though I think 10 miles should be max, unless you are breaking up the runs into morning and evening, and I doubt that 2-a-days is good idea with the injury.

going slower wrote:

Injury from playing basketball...you and a doctor will have to determine how bad.

That kind of injury might take a month to heal properly. High quality speed work will revive the injury until it is healed, and you will be starting almost from scratch to heal.

See how you feel with the high mileage...not much else you can do because of the injury, even though I think 10 miles should be max, unless you are breaking up the runs into morning and evening, and I doubt that 2-a-days is good idea with the injury.

Thanks for this! Do you think I’d be better off going 7 days a week with 8-10 mile runs with a 3-4 mile double every now and then instead? This 6:40-7:20 zone really isn’t all that taxing on me as I hover between 145-160 bpm on these runs, and my muscles aren’t fatiguing all that much.

I do not at all feel the groin strain unless I stretch my leg medially or sprint hard, and even then it’s more so just a tightness than anything. I’m just aiming to play it safe as this could seriously disrupt my base if I don’t be careful.

Consider it like a block of altitude training. Nothing wrong with a break short term .

70-80 mpw will definitely help your 1500/mile fitness. I dropped from 4:23 mile to 3:55 1500 in one year when I jumped from 60 mpw to 70-80. I don't think that's an uncommon story.

That said, I don't think you're doing it correctly. You're at the point where running 7 days per week is not only feasible, it's expected. Even if it's just a 4-6 mile run really easy, it will help a lot. You can also take some of these extra "long" runs, cut them down to 10 miles, and add the rest to the Sunday run and probably the Saturday run. So something like this:

S - 5

M - 10

T - 10

W - 10

T - 10

F - 10

S - 15

This only gets you 70 miles and I bet you get more of a benefit from it. You can also add in a Tuesday or Wednesday double of 5 miles for 75. If you want to keep going, extending the Wednesday or Thursday run to 12 miles, extending the Saturday run to 16-17, and extending the Sunday run to 6-7 will get you 80 miles. So start with the baseline I have above, and add on these type of things to push up to 80. Eventually, you can get to a schedule like this:

S - 7-9

M - 10-12

T - 5-6 AM, 10-12 PM

W - 10-12

T - 5-6 AM, 10-12 PM

F - 10-12

S - 17-18

For a total of anywhere from 85-100 miles, but probably trying to hit 90-95 most weeks. This is, imo, the ideal base phase mileage for a well-trained middle distance runner. During the season, you will drop into the 80-85 range, and in the true competition phase you will do anywhere from 50-80 depending on the week.

Is the 1500 not a mid distance event anymore? That looks like some 3k 5k mileage right there. If you’re training for cross that looks great but for mid distance uhhhhhhh