Basically I was running some long hills today and I paced them poorly, running 3:00, 3:05, 3:15, 3:15. Since I slowed down quite a lot, is it fair to say that I won't have gained any benefit from that session?
Basically I was running some long hills today and I paced them poorly, running 3:00, 3:05, 3:15, 3:15. Since I slowed down quite a lot, is it fair to say that I won't have gained any benefit from that session?
It's not fair to say that. Obviously training is beneficial. Try to think about it logically. Do you really think that since you couldn't keep up the pace throughout your whole workout, the workout just disappeared? Try telling that to your legs.
Sounds like a long hill. :) Since strength is the goal pf this workout, no. Eventually you will learn to pace the hill better and you will run it faster.
Now if an interval workout drops that much, you should modify it (shorten the interval/increase rest) or cut it, IMO. You are trying to run faster here, and at a certain pace. You either over estimated your fitness, or you are wiped out and need another day of rest and need to reschedule.
British Guy wrote:
Basically I was running some long hills today and I paced them poorly, running 3:00, 3:05, 3:15, 3:15. Since I slowed down quite a lot, is it fair to say that I won't have gained any benefit from that session?
Traction and power of the land is the deciding factor. Lacking the proper elements then any pace will be deleterious to the advanced runnerknight. With the proper elements all paces are extremely fruitful and endowing.
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You benefited, but you need to make sure to take an easy day tomorrow. The workout indicates that you likely went too hard and that you will need some recovery.
Next time, just worry about running light and quick up the hill with good form keeping your breathing under control.
Al_Naba_Siddiq wrote:
British Guy wrote:
Basically I was running some long hills today and I paced them poorly, running 3:00, 3:05, 3:15, 3:15. Since I slowed down quite a lot, is it fair to say that I won't have gained any benefit from that session?
Traction and power of the land is the deciding factor. Lacking the proper elements then any pace will be deleterious to the advanced runnerknight. With the proper elements all paces are extremely fruitful and endowing.
I suspect it’s not just the English who dislike the damp. Consider the dry high plains, long grasses like wheat fields and the hallowed grounds, the likes of which have borne witness to the meditations of the greats, the rituals of old and the dances of fruitfulness, respite and good nature. The natural solid ground kept dry and clean by sun and wind, a true oasis. The marshlands and different environments are connected. There is more to running than running. Few know how to properly build up the land. Behold the beatific beavers, covetous of honour!
This.
Think about how silly that is. What if you had gone 3:21-3:20-3:19-3:18? You obviously would not gain as much from that cutdown.
889 wrote:
Sounds like a long hill. :) Since strength is the goal pf this workout, no. Eventually you will learn to pace the hill better and you will run it faster.
Now if an interval workout drops that much, you should modify it (shorten the interval/increase rest) or cut it, IMO. You are trying to run faster here, and at a certain pace. You either over estimated your fitness, or you are wiped out and need another day of rest and need to reschedule.
Sorry, I meant to say yes. ? I didn't have my morning coffee yet-and I'm old and can't see.
But yeah, you got benefit for sure, you'll learn to pace it better next time. It's just a big drop in intervals mean too fast of pace for date pace, or too tired, maybe too much volume for date too.
Some pretty reassuring responses here. My issue was that, even though 3:00 pace should've been manageable for me, I'd tried increasing my mileage from 70 to 80 for the week and it killed me. Gonna have an easier week of 55-60 over Christmas and then go back to 70.
Sounds normal.
British Guy wrote:
Some pretty reassuring responses here. My issue was that, even though 3:00 pace should've been manageable for me, I'd tried increasing my mileage from 70 to 80 for the week and it killed me. Gonna have an easier week of 55-60 over Christmas and then go back to 70.
Sounds like a good plan, and upping the mileage will usually slow you down until you adjust- if that is what you are after. Pace is not that important for longer hills, but effort. Shorter hills= faster pace is always how I did it. I always like one not too steep either, in order to be able to get a good pace going. 1 min seemed to be about right in order to get the quads quivering and the lungs a busting. :)
Of course you'll gain some benefit, but the workout was poorly executed. A well executed workout is more beneficial. Even or negative splits is a good sign of a well executed workout, and another is making sure you do enough to improve and get better without "going to the well" so that you can recover properly.
Short answer is no
What's the long answer?
Noooooooooooo?
Endurance