That is a high Vo2 max Alan. Mine was tested at 65 by a well known uni lab (I am a woman).
I would say your body's ability to withstand training and not get injured is an overlooked talent.
That is a high Vo2 max Alan. Mine was tested at 65 by a well known uni lab (I am a woman).
I would say your body's ability to withstand training and not get injured is an overlooked talent.
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That is a high Vo2 max Alan. Mine was tested at 65 by a well known uni lab (I am a woman).
I would say your body's ability to withstand training and not get injured is an overlooked talent.
Oh totally agree.
Training absorption and ability to rebound from constant pounding is definitely a talent.
I miss those 22 mile runs through the knobs of Southern Indiana or the picturesque scenes of eastern Jefferson County KY.
There is something surreal and satisfying about a long arduous run of slowly increasing intensity finishing within an inch of chaos.....
Alan
You need talent, and a healthy supply of EPO.
There is one correct answer. You need the right genetic expression and enviroment. Both is atained from nature and nurture
Every iteration of this question is always missing the key element... the exact definition for having 'talent'.
Since no one can precisely define that this is an unanswerable question.
FinJ wrote:
There is one correct answer. You need the right genetic expression and enviroment. Both is atained from nature and nurture
You were doing so well until your last sentence. Both are obtained from nature and nurture.
Another giver of +1 wrote:
runningislife3 wrote:
Can someone with no natural running ability become an Olympic marathoner with years of training or do you also need talent?
No. You need some talent for running and need years of training.
Some talent? An Olympic marathoner needs to have won the talent lottery. Any sport requires training or practice and the elite athletes are going to be the ones with the most natural ability.
It doesn't take years of training. Bill Rodgers didn't take running seriously during HS and college and didn't train much after graduating from college in 1970. He finally started training hard in 1973 and won Boston in 1975. He had the perfect physique for running and a beautiful stride, neither of which resulted from training.
SDSU Aztec wrote:
Another giver of +1 wrote:
No. You need some talent for running and need years of training.
Some talent? An Olympic marathoner needs to have won the talent lottery. Any sport requires training or practice and the elite athletes are going to be the ones with the most natural ability.
It doesn't take years of training. Bill Rodgers didn't take running seriously during HS and college and didn't train much after graduating from college in 1970. He finally started training hard in 1973 and won Boston in 1975. He had the perfect physique for running and a beautiful stride, neither of which resulted from training.
^ This. You have the genetics first and foremost, without this you can become a good runner, but a great runner, no. Just like everything in life. You can't decide to be 6' when you were only born 5', can you?
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FinJ wrote:
There is one correct answer. You need the right genetic expression and enviroment. Both is atained from nature and nurture
You were doing so well until your last sentence. Both are obtained from nature and nurture.
He has no innate talent for spelling even though that has been nurtured.
Sell ran 4:28/10:06
This is the kind of question spun off the religious dualism.
Just take a scientific view to life instead, and all will be clear (and not black and white but colorful and exciting).
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Sell ran 4:28/10:06
He was also a wrestler and a wide receiver on the football team in HS.
I think it is worth distinguishing between different talents:
Build - Is a person's body put together for running. You can't be too tall or too short. You can't have much asymmetry. All of the muscular attachments to the arms need to be set up such that they swing in a smooth manner and don't twist all over the place. Can't have any internal defects that reduce bodily function.
Endurance - What capabilities does a person's body have for distance running. This is related to the cardiovascular system, the lungs, and metabolism.
Speed - How fast is a person. This is primarily related to the musculo-skeletal system and how a persons body is physically developed.
Distance Durability - Can a person remain injury free despite running high mileage and multiple times a day. Some people no matter how much stretching and strength training they do cannot bump their mileage up without getting injured.
Sprint Durability - Can a person remain injury free while doing speed work. There are some people who are almost guaranteed to be injured after doing repeat 200's or the like. They have to avoid it like the plague or else face injury.
Mental Toughness - Can a person stay focused while running long distances? For some people it is no problem getting into a groove and knocking out mile after mile at a steady pace. For others, once the going gets a bit rough they quit mentally and then quit physically. So most long steady runs they bomb out, but occasionally they actually perform to spec.
Motivation - Can a person motivate themself? People who don't like to run aren't going to train very hard or put in all the work they need to improve, whereas people who really want to be great will go the extra steps to make sure that they are the best they can be.
Mental volatility - A headcase is a person who manages to psyche themself out. So they might have some days where they run terrible for no apparent reason. They might have all sorts of excuses, even if they keep the excuses to themself.