Can someone with no natural running ability become an Olympic marathoner with years of training or do you also need talent?
Can someone with no natural running ability become an Olympic marathoner with years of training or do you also need talent?
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99% talent. 1% training.
Talent beats training wrote:
99% talent. 1% training.
Nope. Not even close. Talent is a necessary but not sufficient condition. I could take Kenenisa Bekele and if he jogged 3 miles per week he would not beat most top collegiate runners who trained 50 miles per week.
runningislife3 wrote:
Can someone with no natural running ability become an Olympic marathoner with years of training or do you also need talent?
No, one must have natural talent. Even Olympian Brian Sell (9:40 high school 2-miler) once said that his primary talent was "never getting injured." I would also argue he had tremendous luck as the long shot he was.
98% talent. 2% training.
100% talent. You have not done much coaching. You can take 100 kids at age 12 and train them all for 10 years and their 5ks will range from 15 minutes to 30 minutes.
XXXX wrote:
Talent beats training wrote:
99% talent. 1% training.
Nope. Not even close. Talent is a necessary but not sufficient condition. I could take Kenenisa Bekele and if he jogged 3 miles per week he would not beat most top collegiate runners who trained 50 miles per week.
Yes he would.
Running is 100% talent and I don't care what anyone says.
50% of it is innate ability off the couch.
The other 50% is innate ability to improve from training.
Born.
them cowboys? wrote:
XXXX wrote:
Nope. Not even close. Talent is a necessary but not sufficient condition. I could take Kenenisa Bekele and if he jogged 3 miles per week he would not beat most top collegiate runners who trained 50 miles per week.
Yes he would.
No he would NOT. I am not talking about Kenenisa with his strong base of decades. I am talking about Kenenisa at 20 with no background and then on 3 miles per week.
XXXX wrote:
them cowboys? wrote:
Yes he would.
No he would NOT. I am not talking about Kenenisa with his strong base of decades. I am talking about Kenenisa at 20 with no background and then on 3 miles per week.
I have a feeling even with that base he would struggle after a year or 2 of only running 3mpw. For one thing he would probably gain like 30lbs:) Seriously I wonder if some people on this board even run. Has nobody ever been injured for two or three months and remember how bad those first runs were where a 3 mile easy run is like 90s slower/mile than what you used to do for 10 mile runs AND it hurts a lot more.
This is not an either or issue. Elite runners are made but you can only be made as good as your talent level allows. Nobody rolls out of bet and runs a sub 13:30. But most of US could do all the work int he world and never come close to that time.
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XXXX wrote:
No he would NOT. I am not talking about Kenenisa with his strong base of decades. I am talking about Kenenisa at 20 with no background and then on 3 miles per week.
I have a feeling even with that base he would struggle after a year or 2 of only running 3mpw. For one thing he would probably gain like 30lbs:) Seriously I wonder if some people on this board even run. Has nobody ever been injured for two or three months and remember how bad those first runs were where a 3 mile easy run is like 90s slower/mile than what you used to do for 10 mile runs AND it hurts a lot more.
This is not an either or issue. Elite runners are made but you can only be made as good as your talent level allows. Nobody rolls out of bet and runs a sub 13:30. But most of US could do all the work int he world and never come close to that time.
Yes you are making sense.
Talent + years of training + resistance to injuries + staying off LetsRun.
txRUNNERgirl wrote:
Talent + years of training + resistance to injuries + staying off LetsRun.
Last point is probably the most important one.
Oh dear. No wonder I can barely walk at the moment.
runningislife3 wrote:
Can someone with no natural running ability become an Olympic marathoner with years of training or do you also need talent?
No natural running ability? What is that supposed to mean?
Talent is pointless without hard work.
You could have all the natural abilities of a world-class fighter pilot but, if you don't get in a plane and learn to fly, you'll never be better than an average joe who puts in a bit of work.
You could have all the genetic potential of bekele but if you don't start young, build strength, technique, oxygen uptake, capillary density, etc etc etc, you won't amount to anything.
When did you last see anyone get off the sofa after 10 years of McDonalds and win anything?
Dr. of Nothing wrote:
100% talent. You have not done much coaching. You can take 100 kids at age 12 and train them all for 10 years and their 5ks will range from 15 minutes to 30 minutes.
I would say that if there is a talent : training ratio, then it must be close to 50% talent and 50% training.
Also, barring serious handicap or deformity, no human that trains for running from age 12 to age 22 will run a 5k near 30 minutes. Maybe a human who was sedentary from age 12 to 22 would run a 30 minute 5k.
LateRunnerPhil wrote:
txRUNNERgirl wrote:
Talent + years of training + resistance to injuries + staying off LetsRun.
Last point is probably the most important one.
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