it's pathetic it took so long and he got a painless death. He burned a woman alive. We have reached a point in this country where if you try and defend your house against looters you can get killed by the mob with no repercussions but if you burn a woman alive, Kim Kardashian and the rest of twitter will come to defend you.
Officialdb wrote:
it's pathetic it took so long and he got a painless death. He burned a woman alive. We have reached a point in this country where if you try and defend your house against looters you can get killed by the mob with no repercussions but if you burn a woman alive, Kim Kardashian and the rest of twitter will come to defend you.
I briefly skimmed his story, it sounds like she may have been dead prior to the fire. Either way, if you do silly things, you should be prepared to pay the price.
I do see the humanity in people and would have been ok with a life sentence or 50 years or something substantial. But I'm also not cheering for him to have his life spared when he showed the kind of person he was in his criminal acts.
He should have been put in the trunk of a care then lit ablaze.
Greg wrote:
Officialdb wrote:
it's pathetic it took so long and he got a painless death. He burned a woman alive. We have reached a point in this country where if you try and defend your house against looters you can get killed by the mob with no repercussions but if you burn a woman alive, Kim Kardashian and the rest of twitter will come to defend you.
I briefly skimmed his story, it sounds like she may have been dead prior to the fire. Either way, if you do silly things, you should be prepared to pay the price.
I do see the humanity in people and would have been ok with a life sentence or 50 years or something substantial. But I'm also not cheering for him to have his life spared when he showed the kind of person he was in his criminal acts.
No - she was burned alive. As bad as this was read about christopher Newsom and Channon Christian. The barbaric murders of this Tennessean couple is as bad as it gets.
I wish it wasnt so expensive and such a long process to have these people executed....
I wish we would bring back the Firing Squad method and dispatch these criminals right when they are convicted and the decision should be that they are executed, none of this waiting bs....
Y3eZafVe343ra3 wrote:
I wish it wasnt so expensive and such a long process to have these people executed....
I wish we would bring back the Firing Squad method and dispatch these criminals right when they are convicted and the decision should be that they are executed, none of this waiting bs....
I'm not sure the policy is going to change based on how big a thrill it would give low-education Trump types.
But in reality, the death penalty is only a thing because it's a vote winner with those people. It's not used as a tool of justice or a deterrent, just for something for people like yourself to enjoy.
I'd like to know what proportion of supporters of the death penalty are religious and whether an eye for an eye really extends to federally-sanctioned murder.
It doesn't need to be. Hopefully the process gets improved with a more conservative SCOTUS. Once sentenced to death, I think the condemned should have about two years to file two appeals, and, if both are rejected, execute him that very night.
It took George Washington about 10 days to hold a trial, convict, and execute Major Andre for espionage.
The conspirators in the Lincoln assassination were executed one week after they were convicted, less than three months after the assassination.
It only took Iraq less than two months to hang Saddam Hussein after he was convicted.
The Rosenbergs were electrocuted about two years after conviction.
Utah executed someone by firing squad about 10 years ago or so, and Oklahoma still has it as an option if lethal injection is ever declared unconstitutional.
Yes, that was absolutely horrifying. I hadn't read anything about it in years but I knew exactly what you were referring to as soon as I saw your post. A screenwriter for a torture/horror movie couldn't write a more terrible script.
The death penalty is barbaric and not becoming of a first world country. The government should not have the power to kill its citizens, no matter their crime.
Adifan wrote:
The death penalty is barbaric and not becoming of a first world country. The government should not have the power to kill its citizens, no matter their crime.
Killing people is a priority for the Trump administration. Not really surprising when they have overseen so much death this year, through their indifference to Covid.
Good riddance loser.
This was an 18 year who ran with a bad crowd that did an awful crime in 1999 and was convicted as an accomplice, from what I understand.
Lee Boyd Malvo was a 17 year old who shot and killed several people along with John Muhammad, who was in his forties.
Muhammad was executed by the state of Virginia in 2009.
Malvo received a life sentence but not the death penalty because of his age at the time.
Before this year, there had not been a federal execution since 2003.
Just giving some facts and perspective.
Malvo's crime was worse, but he was spared by being a year younger.
And also one was as state charge and the other federal.
This is about whether you believe in the death penalty at all or whether you believe that the federal government should be out of this and only have them done at the sate level according to each state's law.
I happen to think an execution carried by the government in some calm way that is not in a self defense mode is uncivil and barbaric.
I can tell you my wife is all for it and she is a full Democrat as I am.
I see where others stand here and the death penalty is pretty popular.
But again, at the federal level there was a 17 year moratorium.
Should this stay with the states?
The US remains the only Western democracy that still imposes the death penalty. Not so world-leading there.
Y3eZafVe343ra3 wrote:I wish it wasnt so expensive and such a long process to have these people executed....
I wish we would bring back the Firing Squad method and dispatch these criminals right when they are convicted and the decision should be that they are executed, none of this waiting bs....
Oh, you mean like China does?
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Adifan wrote:
The death penalty is barbaric and not becoming of a first world country. The government should not have the power to kill its citizens, no matter their crime.
Killing people is a priority for the Trump administration. Not really surprising when they have overseen so much death this year, through their indifference to Covid.
About time. The dude knew what he was doing. Firing squad is the cheapest and best. Need to clean out all the murders in the system waiting for years and years.
L L wrote:
I happen to think an execution carried by the government in some calm way that is not in a self defense mode is uncivil and barbaric.
I can tell you my wife is all for it and she is a full Democrat as I am.
I see where others stand here and the death penalty is pretty popular.
But again, at the federal level there was a 17 year moratorium.
Should this stay with the states?
I remember the DC shooter well. I had just finished high school and it was all over the news. It was like you turn on your TV and another dose of fear. No one knew where or when he would strike next. A running aquantance of mine joked 'those were some good shots' but it really was nothing to laugh at for the victims or those who experienced it.
I think ultimately, you want to live in a world where compassion exists and people are shown love.
So in that regard I can see how people don't like the act of putting one to death.
However, it's not really about taking someones life. It's about due punishment for a crime.
That's why I have to say I have little compassion once someone has crossed the line.
In Canada there's a guy known as Alek Minassian who 2 years ago drove a van into 10 people and killed them. He's been quoted in court as recently as yesterday as stating he wished he would have killed 100.
He's pleaded not guilty and is using his autism spectrum diagnosis in an attempt to get off as NCR, or not criminally responsible. Yet, there is ample evidence that shows he admits what he did and knew it was wrong.. Only in an ultra liberal country like Canada does it seem this silly arguement will take place.
I think those who support the death penalty are at a point of just not caring anymore. There's no emotion involved towards the accused. It's a simple way of saying 'you're out of here, you're a gonner, goodbye'. People who don't want the death penalty have a right to their perspective, yet, they can't dismiss people who feel they just dont' care about someone who has shown exactly that.
Alexander Bissonnette killed 6 and recently had his sentence reduced. He will now be eligible for parole after 25 years. That doesn't seem right.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55095956
In the US this guy would probably face life in prison in every single state, no possibility of parole.
Adifan wrote:
The death penalty is barbaric and not becoming of a first world country. The government should not have the power to kill its citizens, no matter their crime.
Please name a punishment for a person who grisly murders an innocent person that is appropriate to the crime yet not barbaric.