Jenna Hutchins Runs 15:34 at Five and Dime To Break Katelyn Tuohy's 5000 US HS National Record

FastTuohy wrote:

I tried 2 converters both of which said a 9:00 3,000 meters was equivalent to 15:35 5,000 meters.

Unfortunately I'm addicted to arguing with lunatics. It's just annoying because this guy keeps saying three girls going to break 9:30 in the 3200 meter

So Elite high school girls are going to PR by 20 and 25 seconds respectively when a couple of seconds is pretty good progress in any year

Not seeing Alder in the video ...

Congratulations. Legitimate record.

Tuohy set the record on a indoor track where she had to pass all the other runners repeatedly. And she had no pacer and no one was running with her. That accounts for the pacing differences.

Maybe it was the camera angle or the less crowded conditions but the outdoor track Hutchins ran on seemed very commodious by comparison.

Tuohy's records happened very naturally and without any help. She ran her seasons, did not change her schedule or run special races for record chances, and what happened happened. It was refreshing. But the 5K record falls every few years.

76chine wrote:

Hutchins was so impressive.

Very nice pacing, but top competition could have provided pace as well.

Now, hopefully, she will focus on the 3000m, 1500m, and 800m during the season.

I do not hope this. I'm glad nobody twisted my arm at a similar age to run events far off those that are my best. As far as I know, she's best at 10k. I was at that age. Let her run whatever events she feels she should!

yeahmon! wrote:

Hutchins beats Astro wrote:

Oh my! Every record is going down this year and Hutchins is only a junior.

I know three girls are going to run sub 9:30 for 3200.... I can't wait! That translates to what about a 15 15 5K.

What is the girls age 17 5000 meter record? Can she get it next year?

Congratulations to Jenna, amazing completely legitimate performance. Kind of ironic that it was also mostly a solo time trial in a goofy race very similar to Tuohy's run. Clearly both could have gone faster in true competitive races. I hope Jenna gets a normal sr year of xc and track, so she can take a shot at the traditional championships!

Let's not be so hasty to bury Cain and Tuohy. Cain did go on to win a World Jr 3k, a couple US adult women's 1500 and mile championships, and made the World Championship women's 1500 final. (Then she went away, lol).

Tuohy never went away. That 15:37 5k her sophomore year was the only track 5k she ever ran. After that race she went on to win 2 more NXN titles, numerous New Balance indoor and outdoor championships, set various national records at 1500, mile, 3000, 2mile and won 5 Gatorade awards. During grades 10-12, she only lost one race at distances over 800m. Yes, that all came after the 5k! Meanwhile she is busy training at NC State not that far away from the Five and Dime meet for her freshman year of xc and track. An admittedly goofy freshman year like most people's 2020, but she hasn't disappeared and is eager to compete when NCAA competition resumes.

So let's just appreciate the 2020 greats Hutchins, Thorvaldson and Brown, without belittling their predecessors.

100% agree!!!

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Brown is not as fast as Thorvaldson or Hutchins. First people claimed that the Runninglane times couldn't be duplicated on a track. Then when 2 of the fastest runners drop 24 and 22 seconds from that race, the next hurdle can't be cleared. When Hutchins runs 9:29, it will be a lucky guess and abnormal improvement. Ask her coach how fast she is going to run this spring. She knows.

Rocky Mountain High wrote:

runnerfan wrote:

I hope people who doubted her 3 weeks ago will shut up now. No pacers either. All by herself!! Great job Jenna!!

This right here. Should reinforce that her 5k xc record from AL was legit. Also should tell you just how much slower high altitude REALLY is...

This is great to watch the doubters eat their words from a few weeks ago. Saying the course was short etc... She just ran FASTER than her "fast/short" course time.

YMMV wrote:

Tuohy is legend, but if Hutchins runs 15:32, as I suspect she will, her place is deserved just as much. I just wish that Sydney T was in this one.

I was off by one second each for Grijalva and Hunter, and two seconds for Hutchins. About a tenth of a percent in all three cases. I'm calling it 3/3.

Well said. It is remarkable that the one race her sophomore year as the only 5k she ever ran on the track. Never ran one outdoors. Never ran it in a pro race . But she will get to run it on college.

The course was fast. Does not change a thing.

I think it does. Now she has two national records. Boo hoo for you.

The prediction, which was absolutely Looney, was that all three girls would break 9:30

Since we saw that Sydney thorvaldson is way faster than brown. Brown runs 929, Sydney thorvaldson should run 9:20 or 9:15 and Hutchins should run 910

I guarantee you no girls breaking 9:30 this year

But I'd be willing to bet any amount of money up to a hundred K that all three girls do not break 9:30. We can set it up with a Vegas casino.

No one is burying Katelyn Tuohy and Mary Kane. But just trying to be realistic about what it shows for high school girl fenom runners. And also the expectation of fans Etc. And obviously caution to not over training

astro wrote:

The course was fast. Does not change a thing.

Actually the course built in a city of engineers seems a little slow/long now considering she's 20 seconds faster on a track

Congratulations to Jenna!!! If she can run 15:01 as seventeen year old she can match the great Zola Budd. That's when LRC can really get excited.

Hutchins > Tuohy wrote:

What do you think a 16 year old boy would run for 3200 who runs 15:34? If you say 9:45, you are not being honest. I would say 9:25. Hutchins would have run 9:30 today.

The only way a 15:37 guy runs a 9:25 is if he is like a 4:10 miler. If you look at the distance based guys you will see a bunch of 4:35/9:35/15:30 type runners out there. If she ran a 3200 in 3 days, I would put my money on her being closer to 9:40 than 9:25. Of course 9:40 is also a crazy fast time. Of course if you told me Tuohy was only going to run 9:47 that spring, I would have thought that you were crazy. She split a 9:54 in the 5000m.

We have a crazy amount of high schoolers these days of both genders. Hopefully we get some epic races this sprin.

A 925 for a girl is like an 808 for a boy. It's off the charts. It's not happening!

Hutchins s PR for the 1600 m is 442. You're asking her to hold her mile PR for a whole nother mile

Katelyn Tuohy as always went out too fast in her 5K record and slow down. She only ran with a Pacer in One race in a high school career. And you can definitely run faster in a well-paced pro race than you can in a high school race. Or high school only

Honestly this shows that Hutchins is right with Tuohy her sophomore year. Both had about the same speed ratings averaging about 168. Hutchins hit 171, Tuohy 172. This was a smart move by Hutchins she took a advantage of her cross training and got a really fast track 5K. But to say not only one but three girls would improve by such a huge margin, if these girls can find a way to improve by so much so so suddenly, and do it in a healthy manner God bless them, but I don't see any evidence that's realistic