robert678 wrote:
Hershel Walker only did push ups, sit ups, and pull ups. He was pretty buff. I think they can work just fine.
He also played ball in my home state and supports DJT! A great role model ?
robert678 wrote:
Hershel Walker only did push ups, sit ups, and pull ups. He was pretty buff. I think they can work just fine.
He also played ball in my home state and supports DJT! A great role model ?
They are not good if your goal is to move your floor. If you want to keep your body toned and tight, they work pretty well.
Plant fan wrote:
They hurt my wrists. A lot.
You need some red meat plant fan. ?
I don't know if push-ups are useless...but they sure don't help runners.
They're useful. But according to the military, only 70% as useful as pullups and they're correct.
Bad Wigins wrote:
They're useful. But according to the military, only 70% as useful as pullups and they're correct.
Most or many people cannot do pullups, and there is no way to modify them. You are lifting most of your body weight. If you do both, you are doing well for sure. But for runners pushups are king, they do not develop the Lats as much which can change the arm swing motion to more across the body, IMO.
889 wrote:
Bad Wigins wrote:
They're useful. But according to the military, only 70% as useful as pullups and they're correct.
Most or many people cannot do pullups, and there is no way to modify them. You are lifting most of your body weight. If you do both, you are doing well for sure. But for runners pushups are king, they do not develop the Lats as much which can change the arm swing motion to more across the body, IMO.
Not everyone has access to a pull up bar. My apartment has metal door frames that can't support a bar. Push ups can be done anywhere and can be modified to be made easier or more challenging
eurodonkey wrote:
As a runner, if you can't do 20 of them, it's a weakness in your armour. But getting from 20 up to 50 or 100 will not make you run faster.
A full body program is Push, Pull, Hinge, Squat, Carry. So they are a useful 20% of what you need.
What is Hinge? DL? And carry? Farmers carry?
coach wrote:
889 wrote:
Most or many people cannot do pullups, and there is no way to modify them. You are lifting most of your body weight. If you do both, you are doing well for sure. But for runners pushups are king, they do not develop the Lats as much which can change the arm swing motion to more across the body, IMO.
Not everyone has access to a pull up bar. My apartment has metal door frames that can't support a bar. Push ups can be done anywhere and can be modified to be made easier or more challenging
I use to do mine on an open door and back in the day could do the molding over the door. I've lost my mojo since I got old. :(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEuw2mgLRuQNo
Plus one.
I had my wrist reconstructed surgically. Normal push ups are impossible. As are exercises with a supinated grip, like chin ups.
But the perfect push up completely gets rid of wrist strain. Harder than normal push ups, too.
I would suggest for these people to do negatives or dead hangs until they can work up to a proper pull up. This is a way to modify the exercise.
Worked for me. I can do 12-14 with clean form and no cheating when fresh now. I had to do the dead hangs initially because I could not bend my elbows to start the movement.
RunningNoob420 wrote:
I would suggest for these people to do negatives or dead hangs until they can work up to a proper pull up. This is a way to modify the exercise.
Worked for me. I can do 12-14 with clean form and no cheating when fresh now. I had to do the dead hangs initially because I could not bend my elbows to start the movement.
thanks on that. I've been working on it and making slow progress.
Hey, for those of us who hit the weights, aren't bench presses doing the same as a push-up?
seattle prattle wrote:
RunningNoob420 wrote:
I would suggest for these people to do negatives or dead hangs until they can work up to a proper pull up. This is a way to modify the exercise.
Worked for me. I can do 12-14 with clean form and no cheating when fresh now. I had to do the dead hangs initially because I could not bend my elbows to start the movement.
thanks on that. I've been working on it and making slow progress.
Hey, for those of us who hit the weights, aren't bench presses doing the same as a push-up?
The bench press does not engage the " core" muscles the way push ups do which is why push ups are a more functional exercise for runners than the bench press.
coach wrote:
seattle prattle wrote:
thanks on that. I've been working on it and making slow progress.
Hey, for those of us who hit the weights, aren't bench presses doing the same as a push-up?
The bench press does not engage the " core" muscles the way push ups do which is why push ups are a more functional exercise for runners than the bench press.
that makes a lot of sense, put that way. Thx.
coach wrote:
Plant fan wrote:
They hurt my wrists. A lot.
Buy the "perfect push up" device for $20, it works.
Or hold on to dumbbells or do push ups on your fists.
Thanks, I'll look into this. It is because I have a problem with a nerve in my wrist, the angle of it doesn't agree with it, the same if doing stretches against a wall.
It is really annoying because I never had a problem in it before this and didn't think about anything to do with my arms/wrist. Now it is swollen.
Lock your wrists and place you knuckles in the ground.
I mean they get you off the ground only part way so sure. But for most people; it's enough to get a leg under themselves and go the rest of the way with help.
If you can get to standing with just a push ups, then you're not useless.
Bad Wigins wrote:
They're useful. But according to the military, only 70% as useful as pullups and they're correct.
Push ups and pull ups work significantly different muscles... it's worth doing both.
Push ups took Mo Farah from 'also-ran' to multi-time champ!