UK first country to approve vaccine

Operation Warp Speed beaten by BJ. A new low for the Trump administration.

Thank God we left the EUssr so we didn't have to wait to go through all their red tape and beurocracy. Likely Brexit has already saved thousands of lives.

Coevett wrote:

Thank God we left the EUssr so we didn't have to wait to go through all their red tape and beurocracy. Likely Brexit has already saved thousands of lives.

I think you've just been played. Boris cut corners on this to win this week's headlines and build support from his rebelling back bench for whatever car crash of a deal or car crash of no deal is coming. In a few years we may not be able to afford to buy Pfizer vaccines. In a few weeks we may not be able to get vaccines through Dover.

Russia approved a vaccine in August. The jury is still out on its effectiveness, but, well, there you go anyway...

Putin beat everyone!

Coevett wrote:

Thank God we left the EUssr so we didn't have to wait to go through all their red tape and beurocracy. Likely Brexit has already saved thousands of lives.

The same EUssr that cut all the red tape and bureaucracy needed for the likes of you and I to live and work wherever we want in the EU without much hassle?

Reasoning like yours is one of the reasons why people call us stupid for having chosen to leave.

Greetings from sunny Poland.

The impact of Brexit is forecast to be 2-3 times of the pandemic.

- David Gauke, Cons (ex Lord Chancellor)

- London School of Economics

- Various important figures in finance (heads of business, etc).

expat nextdoor wrote:

Coevett wrote:

Thank God we left the EUssr so we didn't have to wait to go through all their red tape and beurocracy. Likely Brexit has already saved thousands of lives.

The same EUssr that cut all the red tape and bureaucracy needed for the likes of you and I to live and work wherever we want in the EU without much hassle?

Reasoning like yours is one of the reasons why people call us stupid for having chosen to leave.

Greetings from sunny Poland.

They just had to crack on because the vaccine is coming from Belgium. The government have no idea how bad things are going to be after January 1st.

In terms of the economy only, obviously.

What's wrong with some of the people here, too many responses to the thread are not celebratory with people seeing light at the end of what has been a dark tunnel, instead we get the ranting lunatics turning to whatever shade of politics they are aligned with (and usually forgetting that other people can have legitimate views which differ from their own tribal bubble, but instead resort to infantile mud slinging from their self aligned bubbles).

Gibstar wrote:

What's wrong with some of the people here, too many responses to the thread are not celebratory with people seeing light at the end of what has been a dark tunnel, instead we get the ranting lunatics turning to whatever shade of politics they are aligned with (and usually forgetting that other people can have legitimate views which differ from their own tribal bubble, but instead resort to infantile mud slinging from their self aligned bubbles).

A vaccine may mean that I have to go back into work even though myself and my coworkers can do 100% of our job remotely. I would rather take a chance of letting 99.1% asymptomatic covid run rampant if it means I can continue my current lifestyle. Thanks for your understanding.

We can talk about what we want and comment on what we want.

That has zero correlation with how pleased someone is regarding the vaccine.

I have been over the moon since I found out around 7am.

Gibstar wrote:

What's wrong with some of the people here, too many responses to the thread are not celebratory with people seeing light at the end of what has been a dark tunnel, instead we get the ranting lunatics turning to whatever shade of politics they are aligned with (and usually forgetting that other people can have legitimate views which differ from their own tribal bubble, but instead resort to infantile mud slinging from their self aligned bubbles).

Also, I find what you said really hypocritical.

You call people 'ranting lunatics' - and insult them, when no one on this thread has been ranting - they have been having a reasonable discussion.

You talk about acceptance of other people's views yet you appear to have none of that yourself for criticising people for talking about something else.

You have no idea what jobs people on this thread have - what they have been involved with and so on. Until you know the history and contributions made behind every poster, I would refrain from mud slinging - which is actually what you are doing.

2 Turkish scientists in a German lab came up with the vaccine, how very un-British..

Let's roll it out quick now the plebs will be delighted with how fast we acted, come January that s stain of a government won't know what hit it.

And it will be hilarious

So we have a vaccine being rolled out in a Western democracy that hopefully will put an end to deaths, loss of livelihoods, and hopefully allow running races and events to take place (it is after all a running forum) and the first responses people post are largely around politics, focusing of a dislike for Trump, a dislike of the EU, a dislike of Brexit, etc, taking the thread off topic into a political mudfoght. Now I may be wrong, but I suspect most people are thinking "Great news" or similar and looking forward to a more positive way forward, I'd suggest these people who view everything through tribal politics are likely to be ranting lunatics types and no matter what the comment is of they will go on with their tribal ranting.

P.S. I respect views different to my own, but get tired of people who view everything through politics and criticize those that holds alternative political views.

Earlyboy wrote:

2 Turkish scientists in a German lab came up with the vaccine, how very un-British..

Let's roll it out quick now the plebs will be delighted with how fast we acted, come January that s stain of a government won't know what hit it.

And it will be hilarious

tECHNICALLY IT REALLY ISN'T BEING ROLLED OUT 'QUICKLY"

coachescanbeuneccessary wrote:

Earlyboy wrote:

2 Turkish scientists in a German lab came up with the vaccine, how very un-British..

Let's roll it out quick now the plebs will be delighted with how fast we acted, come January that s stain of a government won't know what hit it.

And it will be hilarious

tECHNICALLY IT REALLY ISN'T BEING ROLLED OUT 'QUICKLY"

Because the delay in bringing a product through approval is the time it takes to recruit patients. In a pandemic they can get a 1000 patients in a very short time. Everyone wants in.

If this was a BP med it would take ages to recruit, and ages to assess. This measures impact on the virus. Its got a 12 day infectious period and can be measured quickly.

Its also a lot quicker now to identify and exclude drug candidates. Computer algorithms cut the dross.

I still think the AZ vac will be better. Similar efficacy and no storage or transport issues.

Happy to hear that!

Viva Trump...