2021 College Track & Field Open Coaching Positions Discussion

surprisingly? wrote:

Nick Newman out of USC, Jumps and Multis

Out to follow Caryl Smith Gilbert to Georgia? Or he was fired?

Bio says it all

https://instagram.com/coach_sudbury?utm_medium=copy_link

moving up wrote:

Bio says it all

https://instagram.com/coach_sudbury?utm_medium=copy_link

He is an interim, posing as the real director on social media. I’ll believe it when it’s announced in an official press release.

2 things I know are 1) suds wil be the director. Absolutely no doubts. And 2) utrgv absolutely wants to clear house and have no connection to flowers which means egg and foots are o-u-t out, out, out.

Obviously no proof, but conversations.

Agree, it would be eyebrow raising for UTGRV to hire Eggarth.

Of course he could do it; he did well at Kennesaw. But you don't typically hire an assistant to the guy you just fired (unless said assistant is a real back stabber).

Don't know what AD at UTRGV is thinking,but they will likely go with an outside hire and the new coach will decide on the staff.

There are some quality coaches down there, and I would not be surprised if Foote was retained (Eggarth is a good coach, but may be to much for the new coach to deal with) but it will likely be up to whoever is hired.

Who goes to Louisville?

Look for Tennessee Jumps/Multis to be open. Travis is heading back to Tennessee.

You mean back to Arkansas?

With Clayton to Kstate who will Petros hire as throws coach at Michigan?

Almost anyone he wants

salukikats wrote:

With Clayton to Kstate who will Petros hire as throws coach at Michigan?

Where did this come from? Petros to Michigan?

u20 National Qualifier wrote:

2 things I know are 1) suds wil be the director. Absolutely no doubts. And 2) utrgv absolutely wants to clear house and have no connection to flowers which means egg and foots are o-u-t out, out, out.

Obviously no proof, but conversations.

Yeah, there's all kinds of bad info on here ... they may say they are interviewing nationally because it sounds good, but it's going to be hard for them to find someone with Coach Eggerth's broad knowledge!

They're trying to add football so they can join that ridiculous new WAC conference.

That program is sadly on a one way ticket to getting cut town

Hopefully it’s the former and not the latter. Good guy, just starting out at this level, may not have the incestuous cronyism connections yet. Also didn’t produce this year. Big shoes to fill in UGA if that’s where he ends up. And his wife is from FL. Wish him well.

Yes my mistake. Back to Arkansas

Minot State Hire

https://msubeavers.com/news/2021/6/15/mens-cross-country-minot-state-taps-sarah-fowler-to-lead-cross-country-program.aspx

WhyNotMinot wrote:

Minot State Hire

https://msubeavers.com/news/2021/6/15/mens-cross-country-minot-state-taps-sarah-fowler-to-lead-cross-country-program.aspx

What a terrible hire that was. 😡

If this proves to be true, looks like the path is cleared for a return to USC for Carjay. If not him who does Watts hire? That could possibly open another sprints and jumps job in the SEC. looks to be a busy summer!

darthkodacc wrote:

WhyNotMinot wrote:

Minot State Hire

https://msubeavers.com/news/2021/6/15/mens-cross-country-minot-state-taps-sarah-fowler-to-lead-cross-country-program.aspx

What a terrible hire that was. 😡

There is nothing wrong with hiring women and minorities, obviously. That isn't the issue at all. May the best qualified, best skilled and best fit win the job!

The issue is when humans, of any race, gender, sexual preference, etc. are hired only because of their race, gender, sexual preference, etc. and not because they are experienced, successful and qualified.

I know there are those people that are like "the white man has had all the breaks" and apparently that attitude is somehow justification to hire unqualified and possibly unskilled people simply because they are not white men. But that IS discrimination and is a revenge mentality (even if the idea that all white men have had it easy was even true, which I would contend it is not). If it was wrong to hire white dudes based on gender and race (which we know has happened), why is it ok to discriminate now?

How does it serve programs to hire underqualified people that get the job for discriminatory reasons that have nothing to do with their skill or experience? How does it serve those hires, to be put into situations they are not qualified for or to know that they got the job based on something they have no control over, and not because they are actually qualified? How does it serve justice or equality to ignore which human is best qualified and the best fit, and instead to base hiring decisions on gender and race? How does it serve humanity to discriminate based on ANY factor other than ability, skill, experience, and qualifications?

And, what does it mean about the value of cross country and track & field, that these sports are primary sports that are being used as a gender and race hiring priority, regardless of qualifications or experience. I'll answer that. It means nobody cares if cross country and track programs have sub par coaching or results. They are simply a convenient way to check a gender and race hiring box. Of little to no value to many schools otherwise.

Again, can you imagine the outcry if a school decided they would only consider white males for a job, regardless of the most qualified? Yet we are seeing so many hirings that are clearly based on being a woman and/or a minority and the same people that would be outraged about a gender and race based hire if it were an unqualified white male are ecstatic about that same thing with a non-white, non-male. We hear all the time "I've heard they are ONLY looking for a woman".

Isn't it time to simply hire the best human for any job in any industry, rather than to hire based on gender and race?

Also, how long before there is a lawsuit filed from a well qualified white male applicant that gets ignored or passed over and a much less qualified woman or minority gets hired instead?

If you just hate white people and/or men, then go ahead and rip on this post. If you do, you have no moral justification and you clearly have no interest in equality. You are also every bit as bad as any racists throughout our history, you just think you are getting an advantage and "revenge" now.

Rather than swing the pendulum from one extreme (in some cases) to another extreme, it seems to me it would be best to stop the pendulum in the middle and start treating ALL humans as equally capable, and then consider ALL humans based on their qualifications, character, skill and experience.