Anyone who thinks that things will be returning to even semi-normal anytime soon is delusional. If anything cases will be spiking more after thanksgiving/Christmas/New Years.
There will be no major races for the masses in 2021, schools will remain virtual in most places as total deaths will head towards 1 million people in the US.
I wish things looked better but at some point you’ve just got to be realistic.
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Blunt Truth wrote:
Anyone who thinks that things will be returning to even semi-normal anytime soon is delusional. If anything cases will be spiking more after thanksgiving/Christmas/New Years.
There will be no major races for the masses in 2021, schools will remain virtual in most places as total deaths will head towards 1 million people in the US.
I wish things looked better but at some point you’ve just got to be realistic.
First half of 2021 will suck. I have hope that towards the end of summer the distribution of vaccines combined with herd immunity start bringing things back to normal.
I think things will be looking better by fall of 2021. Not to say the NYC Marathon will have 40K+ runners, but we'll be heading toward normalcy.
energeticlotuseater wrote:
I have hope that towards the end of summer the distribution of vaccines combined with herd immunity start . . .
Effective vaccines are what will *create* herd immunity.
But I agree that, even with good vaccines widely distributed, the economic pain is going to last at least through 2021. Why would the GOPers in Congress be motivated to help American families out? That would only make the Dem administration look good.
The GOP *needs* there to be a lot of pain so they can keep the Senate and retake the House in 2022. And if that strategy means American families hurt, and some Americans die--well, of course the Republicans are willing to pay that price (as long as they *themselves* don't pay it, of course).
Awesome conversation. Really enlightening on what to expect in 2021/2022/2023. If you want to get educated on what's to come in terms of the vaccine and life with COVID, put this on.. the 2hrs fly by because the topic is tremendously relevant.
Will the Olympics take place in 2021? I hope so.
Not entirely. I think Q1 and 2 will still suck. In fact I expect January-March to be the very worst of the pandemic. Healthcare workers and elderly will start getting the vaccine by year end, so infection rates should drop, BUT all the people getting infected right now will be hospitalized in the next month and then start dying around Christmas and early January. The positive effects of the first vaccine rounds given before Christmas won’t be realized at all until February-ish when infection rates slow and all the sick people from this holiday season are recovered.
By Q3, the vaccine should be pretty widely distributed and things should start to turn up rapidly. The economic fallout will last for years to come. But I don’t think it will be horrible, just a slow grind back to low unemployment.
NYCer wrote:
energeticlotuseater wrote:
I have hope that towards the end of summer the distribution of vaccines combined with herd immunity start . . .
Effective vaccines are what will *create* herd immunity.
But I agree that, even with good vaccines widely distributed, the economic pain is going to last at least through 2021. Why would the GOPers in Congress be motivated to help American families out? That would only make the Dem administration look good.
The GOP *needs* there to be a lot of pain so they can keep the Senate and retake the House in 2022. And if that strategy means American families hurt, and some Americans die--well, of course the Republicans are willing to pay that price (as long as they *themselves* don't pay it, of course).
lololololol, so let me get this straight. When it was said that Democrats were purposefully trying to spread fear to make Trump look bad to get him out of office, it was a big conspiracy theory (which it was, by the way), but obviously the other way around is completely legit?
And to respond to the OP, life will be back to normal in spring. That's what I am told by everyone who says I need to skip Thanksgiving and Christmas because the 'finish line is right around the corner'
And this country will take it lying down.
COVID never ends. The Great Reset is approaching.
Yeah, except for the vaccine. The summer of 2021 will be fine ... for those who are still breathing.
You won't get an answer wrote:
lololololol, so let me get this straight. When it was said that Democrats were purposefully trying to spread fear to make Trump look bad to get him out of office, it was a big conspiracy theory (which it was, by the way), but obviously the other way around is completely legit?
Well since the house actually passed a bill to help people... yes
Not in track and field. If you look at the 2020 lists compared to 2019, 2020 was much better. I expect 2021 will be better still.
As far as Covid goes, it will look a lot like 2020, but maybe less deaths as better treatment drugs become available. People will also be less inclined to allow social restrictions, as the cost-benefit seems to tilt more and more to less restrictions.
We won't have a president whose goal seems to be inciting a civil war. So maybe that will tone down the anxiety. But you can bet that BLM will spend next summer sporadically looting and rioting over the inevitable cop shooting of a black guy caught on video, or any other racial justice-looking event.
The economy will be slow, and the various lockdowns really start to hit various sectors.
It's going to be a lousy year, but we're kind of used to things sucking now.
One is complete fabrication - that the Dems were perpetrating a hoax/blowing the pandemic out of proportion to make Trump look bad. Meanwhile hospital beds are at or near capacity in many places.
The other is based in reality - The house has passed more stimulus, Dems in the senate calling for stimulus, GOP actively blocking stimulus for working Americans, only interested in corporate handouts.
put on your thinking cap wrote:
One is complete fabrication - that the Dems were perpetrating a hoax/blowing the pandemic out of proportion to make Trump look bad. Meanwhile hospital beds are at or near capacity in many places.
The other is based in reality - The house has passed more stimulus, Dems in the senate calling for stimulus, GOP actively blocking stimulus for working Americans, only interested in corporate handouts.
Utter BS.
69 boi wrote:
put on your thinking cap wrote:
One is complete fabrication - that the Dems were perpetrating a hoax/blowing the pandemic out of proportion to make Trump look bad. Meanwhile hospital beds are at or near capacity in many places.
The other is based in reality - The house has passed more stimulus, Dems in the senate calling for stimulus, GOP actively blocking stimulus for working Americans, only interested in corporate handouts.
Utter BS.
Excellent rebuttal. Well thought out, clearly spoken, fully articulated.
I agree...2021 is going to be chaotic at best. Definitely will continue to be "social restrictions." I just need the housing market to crash. I'm in the market but prices and competition right now are outrageous.