Colorado signs contract to keep COVID data hidden from public

Behind Door #1: DHHS refuses to share hospital numbers publicly

Behind Door #2: CDLE says state unemployment has magically dipped to better than before the pandemic (4.9%) which means a cancellation on funds for the unemployed via something they call SEB which is 13 additional weeks.

https://www.9news.com/article/money/economy/more-than-9000-weekly-unemployment-claims-filed-in-colorado-nov-14/73-ee1aa7bf-e82f-47c7-8f8c-256911b781f3

Behind Door #3? Colorado is out of money and has been for a while. They are scrambling with their monetary flows. They cannot afford SEB which is why they cannot afford to release hospital numbers and why they cannot afford to lead the public on about the unemployment calculation scams being used to help save the state money and obligation.

Oh and theyve got wildfires too.

As a nurse who lives and works in Colorado, I have no clue where you got that data from regarding icu beds. Where I work, there are zero icu beds left. Other parts of the hospital are turned into covid units and those are almost at capacity as well.

Plus, staff are working overtime because of the patient overload and running out of supplies.

Quit circulating rumors. People are getting very sick and dying. Do your part to help.

Which hospital?

The sad part is that a lot of RNs have buy in because they love the idea of being heroes in the trenches. If your really a RN you know what's going on or your an RN for something unrelated to covid. Nice try

https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/number-of-covid-19-hospitalizations-state-by-state-july-15.html

What about our 2 multimillion dollar step down facilities. The Conversation center that no one stepped foot in?

32 million. Not 2 million

Would be curious to know which hospital is so overrun. My wife is a nurse in north Denver. Her hospital has many of their ICUs available. Wonder if hospitals would transfer if close enough?

In Denver wrote:

Would be curious to know which hospital is so overrun. My wife is a nurse in north Denver. Her hospital has many of their ICUs available. Wonder if hospitals would transfer if close enough?

Well you see that would require that the other poster not be full of sh it...

Every time there is a covid thread there is always some anonymous, presumably RN/runner combo, who is the boots on the ground in that state, but they never name what hospital they work at so as nobody can fact check them.

In Denver wrote:

Would be curious to know which hospital is so overrun. My wife is a nurse in north Denver. Her hospital has many of their ICUs available. Wonder if hospitals would transfer if close enough?

My wife is a nurse in St. Louis area. They are pretty full, but it's a combo, not just covid. This is the busy time of year. What is getting lost in the mix is it is flu season. ERs fill up and people have electives done before the end of the year.

Hospitals divert patients all the time. It's BS that all the hospitals are "full", they will either fly them out or ambulance to another. They tend to not like to because they lose $$. They can have plenty of beds but not enough staff -which is usually the case.

She has worked at 6 different Hospitals and we have moved around to four different states in the last 20 years. I've worked in housekeeping in most of them too. I've seen how it works, and janitors hear everything-trust me. They are the nameless and faceless workers in the hosp. More nurses are getting out of bedside. It's hard to keep people. When it gets bust they want to work the crap out of you, it gets slow you use up your PTOs to cover, and days get cut.

If it really is a "crisis", then it is being mismanaged by the gov of the state. There are Federal options, they could have the military come in with nurses and docs. The reason is, is like NY, there was really no crisis, just not diverting because of they would lose revenue.

I'm a medic in the Denver Metro area. I rotate through all the ER's daily. According to the nurses and docs I've talked to no hospital is hurting for ICU beds. Not one hospital is turning people away due to C-19 overfill. Colorado's death count is low but people are waiting for 5 hrs to get tested. School and flu season has started so hospitals are seeing the seasonal uptick in admittance.

flying squirrel wrote:

I'm a medic in the Denver Metro area. I rotate through all the ER's daily. According to the nurses and docs I've talked to no hospital is hurting for ICU beds. Not one hospital is turning people away due to C-19 overfill. Colorado's death count is low but people are waiting for 5 hrs to get tested. School and flu season has started so hospitals are seeing the seasonal uptick in admittance.

Yeah, and the media will use normal high season loads to scare people even further- and they have to have that test! I don't think they are telling people to stay at home like they were at first? This would go a long way in limiting people filling up the ER. All they have to do is start limiting electives again to open up space, but they make their $$ doing those- more than covid.

They are doubling up in the ICU where my wife works- which is really a no brainer. Once you are suited up, you can take care of two in a room just as easy as one- esp. if one is out on the vent.

Most people really don't know how a hospital works, but the media will paint it as extra dire in order to keep the general public in fear and continue to boil the frog. Really sad we have come to this in America. We have a press that is only in the hands of a few people now, and we are starting to look like China and Russia with each passing day.

Oh, look a couple random Wordpress blogs being used to spread false information on LRC.

Shocking.

Remember that sham of a thread about where do you get your news from?

lrc killed grandma wrote:

Oh, look a couple random Wordpress blogs being used to spread false information on LRC.

Shocking.

Remember that sham of a thread about where do you get your news from?

The first two, from what I can see, are indeed from local news stations. I browsed through the articles real quick, and there are plenty of numbers in there. Are they right? I have no idea. Are the conclusions the first two posters came up with correct? I don't know that either.

The data isn't hidden. It's available here:

https://covid19.colorado.gov/data

ICUs at 85% of capacity. 11% of hospitals anticipate ICU shortages within the next week. How this compares to a bad flu season I have no idea (hospitals reach capacity during bad flu seasons as well). It's worth noting that hospitals generally operate at 75-80% capacity during normal times. Some of this is the state ramping up its efforts to discourage Thanksgiving gatherings / outbreaks.

Very few of the cases are tied to workplace exposures (unless you work in a prison or old folks home). Most are tied to people exercising poor judgement in their personal lives. We had to put another employee into quarantine this week because they were an idiot(had a gathering of 50 people at their house unmasked). The thing that upsets me about this as a tax payer is we basically have to give people 2 week tax payer funded vacations for being reckless.