What % of low body fat, fit individuals have died from COVID?

I was gonna say...most of the heaviest people I know aren’t overly burdened by work commitments.

fat chance wrote:a-weird-correlation-between-political-party-and-obesity

another factor:

Since we will not ... wrote:

Poster, you are getting mad at people for being poor. It is cheaper to get full on potato chips than it is to get full on natural brown rice, organic chicken breast and kale. Blaming unhealthy citizens for not being healthy and blaming poor people for being poor does not change the facts: 1) Wear a mask and 2) separate physically.

Wow, this is one of the most clueless posts I have ever seen here.

I am in the military. The government provides us $372.71 a month for meals, which averages out to $12.42 per day. This is for THREE hot meals every day, seven days a week. These are meals with lean meat, plenty of vegetables and fruits, brown or white rice, potatoes, etc. The dining facilities have excellent variety and plenty of healthy choices. So I can grab a healthy lunch at a dining facility for about $4.00 or go to the Burger King on post and get a burger, French fries, and a Coke for about $8 or $9. Healthy food is always much cheaper than unhealthy choices. You don't need to eat organic chicken and kale to be healthy.

Eating healthy is cheaper than eating unhealthy. A bag of potato chips costs about $3.50-$4.00. I went to the grocery store last night and looking at my receipt, six bananas cost me $1.50. It is definitely not "cheaper to get full on potato chips."

Basically none wrote:

My husband has treated Covid patients, and the only one so far who will likely not recover is almost 600 lbs. This includes elderly patients and co-morbidities such as COPD, terminal cancer, alcoholism, etc. I’m not saying that the 75% of overweight/obese Americans deserve to die, but just that no one is willing to acknowledge it’s a major issue, and we need to be responsible for our own health.

Yeah, and when NY was having "Big" problems, I saw an interview with a doctor that echoed most were 200kgs and over.

My wife is an ICU nurse, and almost all the cases in the unit are obese, older, and with prior conditions, many times all three. Many times they don't die of covid, but with it- meaning covid was the final thing that pushed them over the edge.

Because America is 40% obese, there are going to be many cases, but the majority recover. The media is truly hyping this when you step back and think.

mask off wrote:

Yeah, and when NY was having "Big" problems, I saw an interview with a doctor that echoed most were 200kgs and over.

My wife is an ICU nurse, and almost all the cases in the unit are obese, older, and with prior conditions, many times all three. Many times they don't die of covid, but with it- meaning covid was the final thing that pushed them over the edge.

Because America is 40% obese, there are going to be many cases, but the majority recover. The media is truly hyping this when you step back and think.

And this is why we're being locked down, forced to wear masks and more than likely a mandated Covid vaccine next year.

Obesity is a preventable condition - it was a choice they made not to eat healthy nor xcercise and refuse to take personal responsibility for their health. Obesity comes with a lot of comorbidities that require pharmaceutical intervention. Same with the middle-aged people who don't take care themselves and end up on multiple medical drugs.

This is the demographics of unhealthy people who's immune systems are trash and they end up needing hospital care if they get infected. And because they didn't take care themselves we lock down society destroying the economy and many other lives, are forced to wear these stupid masks at the gym and more than likely will face a mandatory vaccine.

Since we will not ... wrote:. It is cheaper to get full on potato chips than it is to get full on natural brown rice, organic chicken breast and kale.

Brown rice is less than $1 per pound. That works out to about 500 calories per dollar and a lot of fiber to fill you up.

Potato chips vary widely but also come out to about 500 calories per dollar. Most of those calories are fat, which if you're the type who is satiated by fat will fill you up.

I think it'd be a whole easier to down a half pound (1200 calories) of potato chips at a sitting than a half pound (250 calories) of brown rice.

Don't know about organic chicken breasts, but chicken and rice are a much cheaper way to feed yourself than is junk food.

Agreed. But to tell it like it is, this is what thinning the herd looks like. The problem is, those we save will be showing up in the ICU for something else in the next year. Meanwhile the rest of the population is forced to endure stupid lockdowns and unlawful gov control for the walking dead. I won't be taking a vaccine unless it is required where I work.

And this may be the way the do it. Healthcare workers will be the first, and many hospitals already mandate flu vaccines, but some "let" you wear a mask all through flu season if you don't want to comply for personal reasons (mostly religious). I'm not sure how this will hold up in the supreme court with covid vaccines? There should always be a choice, but sadly we are running out of choices here in America.

Since we will not ... wrote:

Poster, you are getting mad at people for being poor. It is cheaper to get full on potato chips than it is to get full on natural brown rice, organic chicken breast and kale. Blaming unhealthy citizens for not being healthy and blaming poor people for being poor does not change the facts: 1) Wear a mask and 2) separate physically.

I wasn't getting mad at anyone, nor was I blaming anyone for anything.

Potato chips are not less expensive than rice.

My original point was that there is a widespread public health crisis in America, which is obesity, and it puts a lot of people at risk of severe health issues including death related to Covid-19 which they may otherwise easily survive. At the end of the day, there is of course some blame (aka responsibility) that every person has for their own health and fitness since every person must choose what they eat and what they do each day.

I don't know what a good solution to reduce the rate of obesity should be, but I believe that there can be some systematic change at the government or food supplier level which can encourage and foster healthier diets within the population. As long as everyone has the freedom to choose what they eat and how they live, some people will choose to be very unhealthy whether they directly realize the consequences of their choices or not.

You scared hommie?

Only an assumption here. But, I’m guessing you feel as though the only acceptable reasons to leave your house are to protest or celebrate liberal politics en masses. Like the rest of the shills.

Here’s a more acceptable solution. You should hide under the covers until it’s over, and stop acting like your opinion makes a fu(k

Much like all of our ancestors, the weak can tend to the children and elderly.

While the rest of us go about our business and keep the dumpster fire we call a country rolling.

Patient zero in Italy was a marathoner superspreader.

1ub2run wrote:

Patient zero in Italy was a marathoner superspreader.

Yeah, but he recovered just fine. Whether someone is a superspreader doesn't necessarily correlate to the severity of their illness - they just shed a lot of viral load for some reason.

I would also be interested to see the numbers correlating obesity to COVID deaths. Then again, there have been plenty of deaths in other countries that don't have the same obesity issues that America does, so maybe it's not as strong of a link as people think.

Just putting this out there for discussion. I looked at obesity rates and Covid death rates for East Asian nations as compared to North America, Europe, a couple South American, Australia, and New Zealand. There were a total of 191 nations on the lists I looked at.

Ranked by lowest obesity rate

Number is number of deaths per 100,00 population

In parenthesis is the obesity rate for the nation

* I did not include every country, just a random sampling to compare obesity rate to Covid death rate

1. Vietnam - 0.04 (2.1%)

2. Bangladesh - 3.80 (3.6%)

6 Nepal - 4.18 (4.1%)

7 Japan - 1.46 (4.3%)

9 South Korea - 0.94 (4.7%)

22 Singapore - 0.50 (6.2%)

23 China - 0.34 (6.2%)

24 Philippines - 7.23 (6.4%)

30 Indonesia - 5.54 (6.9%)

52 Thailand - 0.09 (10.0%)

67 Malaysia - 0.96 (15.6%)

105 France - 63.59 (21.6%)

110 Brazil - 77.99 (22.1%)

111 Belgium - 120.45 (22.1%)

112 Finland - 6.61 (22.2%)

113 Germany - 14.46 (22.3%)

122 Russia - 21.68 (23.1%)

123 Poland - 23.18 (23.1%)

125 Norway - 5.36 (23.1%)

130 Spain - 85.83 (23.8%)

131 Ukraine - 20.65 (24.1%)

138 Greece - 8.47 (24.9%)

141 Ireland - 40.49 (25.3%)

146 Czech Republic - 52.42 (26.0%)

149 Lithuania - 8.42 (26.3%)

150 Hungary - 27.61 (26.4%)

156 United Kingdom - 75.89 (27.8%)

161 Argentina - 80.88 (28.3%)

162 South Africa - 34.63 (28.3%)

165 Australia - 3.63 (29.0%)

166 Canada - 29.00 (29.4%)

170 New Zealand - 0.51 (30.8%)

180 United States - 73.91 (36.2%)

Of the non-Asian nations, almost all of the nations with a death rate of <20 per 100,000 population are either isolated (Australia, New Zealand) or northern European (Lithuania, Norway, Finland). A couple of exception are Germany and Greece.

A simple scatterplot of the data.

https://ibb.co/8dNpRc3

To make a more complete list, I redid it using 162 nations from around the world. Every nation that I could find both obesity rates and covid death rates was used,

https://ibb.co/qkqrhtM

Long Run Nick wrote:

Most photos I see of COVID fatality victims appear to be overweight. Rarely hear reports from the media about what poor shape the majority of the US population is in. No mention of getting active, getting fit. A lot of reports on COVID weight gains.Sad.:(

What makes you think that statistic would be readily available to us?

Since COVID is here, it is a bit late for people to suddenly shape up to beat the Reaper.

And we have lots of illnesses that hit overweight people harder, now just COVID. Unfortunately, many Americans who should be getting in shape for a whole host of reasons continue to ignore it.

1ub2run wrote:

Patient zero in Italy was a marathoner superspreader.

You rang?

Runningart2004 wrote:

Long Run Nick wrote:

Most photos I see of COVID fatality victims appear to be overweight. Rarely hear reports from the media about what poor shape the majority of the US population is in. No mention of getting active, getting fit. A lot of reports on COVID weight gains.Sad.:(

So old fat and out of shape people deserve to die?

Nature would say yes.

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It’s not about the cost alone. It’s about the cost AND convenience. You can go to ALDI and buy a huge bag of rice, broccoli, chicken breast, salmon, some fruit...etc. It’s cheap. But then you get home and have to chop vegetables, season everything, marinade the fish, and cook. May not seem like a big deal if you’re working an office job where you sit 8-5, but if you’re on your feet in an Amazon warehouse for 12 hours a day, and get off your shift starving, the last thing you want to do is come home and cook. Same goes for those who work night shifts stocking shelves...etc. Manual labor is exhausting. You just wanna sit in your car and drive up to a window and be fed.

You can also go to Aldi and buy frozen french fries and fish sticks. Plop them in a vat of oil, slather a couple buns with as much tartar sauce as they will hold, dump a pile of ketchup on a plate and your dinner is ready in about 4 minutes!! Save room for a delicious Bakers Treat chocolate cupcake for dessert!

Ok this is actually closer to the truth than saying junk food is cheaper.

But let's not forget. Fruit is some of the cheapest food you can get. And it requires 0 prep. Just eat the damn thing.

That's would go a long way.

There's a bunch of veggies you could do that with too. Or....gasp... Chop some carrots celery cucumber etc into manageable pieces. Could take you 10 minutes to chop a lot. Would this be your whole diet? No. But a great, very cheap, and convenient start

Your post makes no sense you idiot. You are making horrendous food choices lol. To blame them and say it's all about their choices and then stating your terrible ones is hysterically dumb.

You just have good genetics to stay skinny.... OBVIOUSLY.