When the pandemic started, the often-stated goal was to flatten the curve of infections as much as possible in order to avoid overwhelming hospitals. I haven't heard anyone say "flatten the curve" in months though. Now, those taking the pandemic seriously seem to have the goal of preventing as many cases as possible until we have widespread vaccine distribution. What prompted the change in strategy? I'm not criticizing either policy, I'm just genuinely curious about the reason for the switch between the two.
Why did we stop caring about "flattening the curve"?
Coronavirus
Report Thread
You are reporting this thread to the moderators for review and possible removal from the forum.
-
-
Flattening the curve is an initial strategy to minimize the effects of a pending pandemic and by this time we already did it to the extent that we could. It's controversial and unclear as to how successful we were but it's not a good metaphor for an ongoing pandemic.
-
It changed when the media went into full-blown panic porn mode.
-
Why dont you ask Mike Pence? He's in charge right? I thought this was all going to be over by Easter and we would have beautiful celebrations. Maybe Easter 2021.
-
BLM!! wrote:
When the pandemic started, the often-stated goal was to flatten the curve of infections as much as possible in order to avoid overwhelming hospitals. I haven't heard anyone say "flatten the curve" in months though. Now, those taking the pandemic seriously seem to have the goal of preventing as many cases as possible until we have widespread vaccine distribution. What prompted the change in strategy? I'm not criticizing either policy, I'm just genuinely curious about the reason for the switch between the two.
And of course, the really frustrating aspect of "flattening the curve" is that hospitals and the medical profession does not seem to have taken advantage of it, which was the entire purpose. As soon as cases started going up again 7 MONTHS LATER, we get immediate claims of hospitals being overloaded. What have they been doing for the last 7 months? The goal was to use the time where the curve was flattened to increase supplies, resources and capacity. That does not seem to have been done.
Cue the medical profession fans ("they are heroes!") and Trump bashers, with meritless arguments. The medical profession is inept, incompetent, and populated by fraudsters. -
Quasi-Boom wrote:
The goal was to use the time where the curve was flattened to increase supplies, resources and capacity. That does not seem to have been done.
The problem is that "supplies, resources and capacity" all seem to cost money. Which was not forthcoming.
Many doctors and hospital administrators are not actual idiots. Most had a clue about what might be coming later in the year--particularly as it became clear that many Americans *were* going to be idiots and not wear masks, not wash hands, and not keep their distance.
But it's hard to make people, facilities, and equipment appear out of thin air. Strangely enough, those things all seem not to be free. -
Oh that changed with the covidiocy narrative. We don't care about that anymore.
It's now changed to vaccines. All about how to rush out the vaccine and jab everyone.
Matters not if more people are dying of sasqautch bites than this virus, you have to be jabbed. -
maybe this wrote:
Flattening the curve is an initial strategy to minimize the effects of a pending pandemic and by this time we already did it to the extent that we could. It's controversial and unclear as to how successful we were but it's not a good metaphor for an ongoing pandemic.
No, "flatten the curve" was a long-term strategy to achieve herd immunity without overwhelming the hospital system. Considering most of the hospital system is way UNDER capacity, we were not only successful, but TOO good at flattening the curve to achieve the original goal. So the OP is asking why we moved the goalposts so many times. -
This BS again? wrote:
Quasi-Boom wrote:
The goal was to use the time where the curve was flattened to increase supplies, resources and capacity. That does not seem to have been done.
The problem is that "supplies, resources and capacity" all seem to cost money. Which was not forthcoming.
Many doctors and hospital administrators are not actual idiots. Most had a clue about what might be coming later in the year--particularly as it became clear that many Americans *were* going to be idiots and not wear masks, not wash hands, and not keep their distance.
But it's hard to make people, facilities, and equipment appear out of thin air. Strangely enough, those things all seem not to be free.
As predicted, this BS again. Claiming medical profession poverty as a defense for their glaring inadequacies (incompetence)? Pretty lame, Milhouse. CARES act, HHS grants, not to mention you would have to be deluded to believe they subsist on government handouts in the first place - it's a well-financed, profitable multi-billion dollar industry, with a the profit opportunity of lifetime on its doorstep.
Poverty! Haha. That's good. There's no way it could be poor planning and an element of greed (take the money and run . . . ). -
covidiocy wrote:
Oh that changed with the covidiocy narrative. We don't care about that anymore.
It's now changed to vaccines. All about how to rush out the vaccine and jab everyone.
Matters not if more people are dying of sasqautch bites than this virus, you have to be jabbed.
Oh, now we get pushback from the 'jabber-wacky' crowd. Same resistance to common sense. Now we'll have to press the message harder, and then they will dig in even harder...just like with the covid concerns.
The covid 'scare mongering' was in reaction to the idiots who wouldn't practice mitigation measures, so people had to shout louder, like as if that would assure they got the memo! So those same message deaf idiots now claim that if it weren't for those arguing back, shouting louder to get through their thick-headed 'skepticism', that they would have done better? How childish! "Mom, I would have kept my room clean, but you kept yelling at me about it. Leave me alone and I'll get around to it!" -
As a healthcare worker who works with critically ill patients it’s frustrating to listen to non medical citizens who take their marching orders from an ill-informed narcissistic leader.
Our Covid ward had gone down to a trickle. We now are at 3x the number of patients we had at maximum in the spring
But you know better -
chicken nuggets wrote:
As a healthcare worker who works with critically ill patients it’s frustrating to listen to non medical citizens who take their marching orders from an ill-informed narcissistic leader.
Our Covid ward had gone down to a trickle. We now are at 3x the number of patients we had at maximum in the spring
But you know better
An emotional need to criticize Trump overwhelmed the poster's reading comprehension skills, leading to a post that had nothing to do with the post it attempted to reply to. Common message board phenomena on LRC, especially on Covid related threads. -
RyecorDone wrote:
covidiocy wrote:
Oh that changed with the covidiocy narrative. We don't care about that anymore.
It's now changed to vaccines. All about how to rush out the vaccine and jab everyone.
Matters not if more people are dying of sasqautch bites than this virus, you have to be jabbed.
Oh, now we get pushback from the 'jabber-wacky' crowd. Same resistance to common sense. Now we'll have to press the message harder, and then they will dig in even harder...just like with the covid concerns.
The covid 'scare mongering' was in reaction to the idiots who wouldn't practice mitigation measures, so people had to shout louder, like as if that would assure they got the memo! So those same message deaf idiots now claim that if it weren't for those arguing back, shouting louder to get through their thick-headed 'skepticism', that they would have done better? How childish! "Mom, I would have kept my room clean, but you kept yelling at me about it. Leave me alone and I'll get around to it!"
Oh oh. The covid cult warriors are out in force. Out there in numbers ensuring that their profound messages are heard. Listen covid culters. No matter how much you shout and scream, you've already been exposed as lying, illogical fools and everyone knows your existence revolves around parroting whatever mass media tells you to parrot. How much farther are you going to bury yourself in the hole? Sad little things.
To give you an example of what illogical nonsense you are programmed to parrott. Take the mass media push to call everyone not supporting BLM a white supremacist, everyone calling a non-Biden supporter a racist, etc. What mindnumbing fvckery right? This is a similar ridiculous, irrational approach as this covid lock down pandemic nonsense is.
It's not that the covid culters are way dumber than even the BLMers, they're mostly one in the same. Programmed idiots. -
chicken nuggets wrote:
As a healthcare worker who works with critically ill patients it’s frustrating to listen to non medical citizens who take their marching orders from an ill-informed narcissistic leader.
Our Covid ward had gone down to a trickle. We now are at 3x the number of patients we had at maximum in the spring
But you know better
Excellent. Can you provide the name and location of your hospital? We have a group of a couple of dozen at disposal in various states, and if convenient for one or two of them we'd like to visit the hospital. -
Soon as you dox yourself
-
Because the mantra is now is, "slow the spread" so they can justify lock downs that don't work. Pretty soon it will be, "turn in your neighbor"-for the common good of course, to finally "stop this virus"! Then we can re-educate these people that just won't listen to what loving and kind "Big Brother" says.
-
maybe this wrote:
Flattening the curve is an initial strategy to minimize the effects of a pending pandemic and by this time we already did it to the extent that we could. It's controversial and unclear as to how successful we were but it's not a good metaphor for an ongoing pandemic.
The age of where people just say things as long as they make sense to them -
chicken nuggets wrote:
As a healthcare worker who works with critically ill patients it’s frustrating to listen to non medical citizens who take their marching orders from an ill-informed narcissistic leader.
Our Covid ward had gone down to a trickle. We now are at 3x the number of patients we had at maximum in the spring
But you know better
Job security! :) Two in a room makes it easier to work anyway. -
The media dropped that from the narrative.
-
wiener dawg wrote:
Why dont you ask Mike Pence? He's in charge right? I thought this was all going to be over by Easter and we would have beautiful celebrations. Maybe Easter 2021.
It was over last Easter, Governors should have let the people enjoy summer and the low case counts, instead they spread fear when nothing was happening, now because the boy cried wolf in the summer nobody is listening.
