Omar Craddock provisionally suspended for whereabouts violations

I don't care if someone dopes to jump three times! Let em. It's funny that they're willing to go to that extreme for such a silly event.

Bad Wigins wrote:

I don't care if someone dopes to jump three times! Let em. It's funny that they're willing to go to that extreme for such a silly event.

Wow, what an intellectual contribution as the sport rips itself into a grave.

Wow. You made two threads in one day about the SAME TOPIC. Can we start deleting members that spam the board?

Lol. But interesting that he didn't go for the beef excuse like Claye and Lawson, who actually got away with that!

Maybe triple jumpers use roids not in beef?

I've always wondered if omar Craddock is related to the not quite as competitive hurdles from california, Kevin Craddock. I've always wondered that since Kevin Craddock clearly is a doper, and if they were related, it would make me suspicious of omar Craddock as well.

Disko Eric wrote:

Wow. You made two threads in one day about the SAME TOPIC. Can we start deleting members that spam the board?

That was an error ; I checked and mistakenly could not find the first .... sorry !

Bad Wigins wrote:

I don't care if someone dopes to jump three times! Let em. It's funny that they're willing to go to that extreme for such a silly event.

Agreed. Who cares about. They should get rid of the field in track & field.

rule reader wrote:

Bad Wigins wrote:

I don't care if someone dopes to jump three times! Let em. It's funny that they're willing to go to that extreme for such a silly event.

Wow, what an intellectual contribution as the sport rips itself into a grave.

Rips itself into a grave?

You need some work on your metaphors

What will be the excuses this time? Traffic? Manager’s fault? Locked in a Porta John?

Anybody who cannot make an appointment should be driven from any sport......

Deal with the thrust and not nit pick.

The sport can not withstand a zero tolerance and targeting to breaches of admin requirements of doping control.

Yusef Scummm wrote:

What will be the excuses this time? Traffic? Manager’s fault? Locked in a Porta John?

Anybody who cannot make an appointment should be driven from any sport......

There won’t be a sport to be driven from.

Try getting an average worker to fill paperwork in.

rule readud wrote:

Deal with the thrust and not nit pick.

The sport can not withstand a zero tolerance ......

How is being allowed to miss two tests without any kind of sanction zero tolerance?

rule readud wrote:

Try getting an average worker to fill paperwork in.

In my experience workers who consistently fail to do their job properly get fired.

Raddison wrote:

rule readud wrote:

Try getting an average worker to fill paperwork in.

In my experience workers who consistently fail to do their job properly get fired.

Good point but an athlete is athlete and has not applied for an admin job a job they may not be intellectually able to do on a regular basis.

And if a job there would be training, advice, retraining,

and a whole raft of other procedures before you lost that job and indeed the right to work for anyone in that field for two years.

I speak from a European employment law perspective .

rule readud wrote:

Good point but an athlete is athlete and has not applied for an admin job a job they may not be intellectually able to do on a regular basis.

And if a job there would be training, advice, retraining,

and a whole raft of other procedures before you lost that job and indeed the right to work for anyone in that field for two years.

I speak from a European employment law perspective .

I don't know how difficult the adams system is to use as I have never used it personally but I have heard it is relatively straightforward. Basically if you can order a pizza online then you have all the skills necessary to use the adams system. Too often when someone says it's too difficult what they really mean is I'm too lazy.

With regards to training, advice, retraining. the training and advice is there but the athlete has to make some effort. Being allowed to miss two tests also implies that the opportunity for retraining is there. Again, is it too difficult or just too lazy?

Finally, there is the potential damage to the industry . If I did something that could undermine the credibility of my industry I doubt anyone would hire me, not just in two years time, but for ever.

Again good points.

But some are just ill suited to forms and personal controls.

My points have been that as employment law and other laws start impinging then whereabouts looks unsustainable. Let alone we will have few athletes left.

I repeat that in uk Soccer the clubs fill Adams out and there is no testing in non work time inc hols.

The Union won’t have it and the testing agencies back down as they know employment law wins.

briswiss wrote:

Bad Wigins wrote:

I don't care if someone dopes to jump three times! Let em. It's funny that they're willing to go to that extreme for such a silly event.

Agreed. Who cares about. They should get rid of the field in track & field.

Its hard to be a jumping jogger isn't it?

How about counting you jumping out of bed?

Or jumping to conclusions?

rule readud wrote:

Again good points.

But some are just ill suited to forms and personal controls.

My points have been that as employment law and other laws start impinging then whereabouts looks unsustainable. Let alone we will have few athletes left.

One thing I have noticed is that most of these busts have been carried out by the AIU rather than the national anti-doping bodies. For a long time I have held the belief that the national bodies really don't want to catch their own athletes and give the athletes all sorts of breaks such as courtesy phone calls or turning up minutes after the one hour window has closed.

I can understand athletes feeling resentful when they feel the "unofficial" rules have changed. A bit like the local cops turning a blind eye to people going 10 KPH over the limit on the highway and then national police step in and start handing out tickets.

As I am not a professional athlete I am not sure about how restrictive the whereabouts requirements are but based on my normal life, saying I will be at home early in the morning would cover 95% of the year. Accommodation at events or training centres would cover the rest. The only difficulty would be days spent in transit or household emergencies. But realistically that won't be many days , and you are allowed two missed tests a year so you would need to incredibly unlucky to get three days where your schedule is in turmoil and the testers call.

Finally, being a professional athlete is, for many, a dream job with the potential for significant wealth and fame. If someone offered me a dream job with wealth and fame but said I must always wear green socks my first action would be to go to the store and buy 50 pairs of green socks. My second action would be to throw all my other socks into the garbage. Wearing green socks may be silly, but losing your job would be more silly.