Fair or Foul: Washington Post tries to shame JFK 50 Miler into being cancelled this weekend

mask off wrote:

Rahm Emmanuel wrote:

This is the definition of secular liberalism.

"You never want a serious crisis to go to waste." Rahm Emmanuel, 2008.

Bingo! This has always been the liberal cry and they only use emotional reasoning, never logic. They are the most unhappy, whining, and intolerant people on the planet.

Needs to be repeated.

QFE

Andy Travis wrote:

People need to suck it up for a few months and be extremely anti-social (for some of us, it comes natural).

If you were truly antisocial you'd be supportive of the race.

Shamers wrote:

Runners gonna run...

Shamers gonna shame...

Death and Taxes...

Yep, and the Wash Post is gonna stick to the fear-mongering liberal agenda

The alcohol consumers should be transported to the forest where they can rake possible inflammables sunrise to sunset to pay society back for their years of idiocy.

- leaders through Waverton/15 miles

It’s the big boys of Hazen and Hawks.

Ben Robinson representing well as he’s great on technical terrain and comfortable on the AT but not sure he’s done the work for the tow path.

Matt Daniels will be interesting.

And gotta love Goggins moving up!! Just worth being out there to hangs with him post-race/

bkrunner wrote:

Rojo, if you read that article and interpreted it was shaming, that says more about you than it says about WaPo. The excerpt you posted includes:

-Undisputed facts about the rise in COVID cases in that particular part of Maryland.

-Undisputed facts about what the race organizers have done re: safety precautions.

-A quote from an infectious disease doctor from Johns Hopkins.

-An opportunity for a quote from the race organizers (which they declined).

This is LITERALLY the basic definition of journalism. State the facts, provide opportunities for comment from stakeholders, provide opportunities for comment from experts. It is mind-boggling that you are offended by this. Snowflake mentality.

Who said I was offended? I just pointed out the whole point of the article was to try to get it cancelled.

You could easily not write an article write an article that starts as follows.

Even though coronavirus cases are rising in Mayland, the famed JFK 50 Miler is going on this weekend. The natural question is, Is it safe?"

The race is taking many precautions to insure it is. In a 50 mile race, runners are natally spread out most of tghe time except for the start and the finish....list a few examples of how they are giving masks, mandating their usage at the start, running in waves, requiring Covid tests, etc.

Additionally, A recent study out of Japan studying looking at over 787 races and 650,000 participants found only a single case of Covid spread.

Those facts aren't enough for everyone however. The Covid-rate in the US is much higher than Japan and many experts view the real risk from an event comes when on travels to it.

"**** quote from Hopkins woman, "But I think her quote should explain how we know an event like this definitely is known to spread Covid as she provides no evidence to back that up. It's like Trump saying the election is rigged but without providing evidencde.

But I don't have a real problem with the article. But it has an agenda and many aren't willing to admit it.

And while I am very cautious about Covid, I personally draw the line at cancelling this after months and months of prep, training, etc at the very last minute. We've got like 12 million cases of covid int he US and we are devoting resources to cancelling people running spaced out in the woods. Well then if we are going to do that, we need to lock down entirely. Be logically consistent.

I promise you more than 1,200 people will be walking on the trails at the start park that is 5 minutes from my house this weekend.

CR splits from 2016

You're making this issue up because you're not good at reading. No one is trying to get the race cancelled or shaming them. Stop being such a snowflake

Hayden 4:05:46 @ 38.4 miles

JW CR (2016) 4:02:33

Hayden 4:26:42 @ 41.8

JW CR (2016) 4:26:26

Hayden 5:18:40 new CR...wow!

To think about this in everyday terms- my local rail trail is 15 feet wide and I'm there 2-3 times a week. Over the course of a Sunday morning 14 mile run, I am within 10 feet of easily 150-175 people (maybe I'll count tomorrow). I don't wear a mask but I do try to give people more distance than I had in the past. I see people wearing masks when they aren't with people from their household (ie: 4 middle-aged women walking) but other than that I only see cyclists wearing masks.

The race itself I see as no more significant of a risk than I (and many others) take multiple times a week. I haven't seen many articles to shut down parks and such. Obviously the congregating at the beginning and end without masks is the big issue that the race poses. I don't see any risk from a hotel as your only person interaction is with the front desk person and surface transmission almost never happens so your room is safe. With restaurants and shops well obviously it really depends on mask use and Maryland has strict mask policy for public settings. Most transmissions are from non-masked gatherings and from another person you live with.

Obviously, we live in a country that is accepting of some risk. Not to argue about how much risk we should be accepting of but this race falls into the amount that society has deemed generally acceptable.

I'm very conservative about Covid precautions, but I agree with Rojo: "in this way" is just facially false. There's no evidence of significant outdoor transmission of covid.

You need to use a better example because of the accident rates involving unlicensed drivers. At that point it becomes weighing different risks. Do they have to keep the windows open during instruction? That makes a gigantic difference.

Big John wrote:

I live here in Maryland. The state government here (like many places) is all over the place with their rules and regulations, yet they defend each one by "we are following the science!!!" For example, my daughter is in the process of getting her drivers license, and she is REQUIRED (state law) to spend 6 hours in a car with an instructor. The cars that are used for instruction have other drivers in and out of them all day long, and there is no temperature screening or testing done on any of the instructors or student drivers. How in the hell is that "following the science"??!?

do it anyway wrote:

By now people are well aware of Covid's risk. 7 people die per million that run marathons without Covid, but we never seriously discuss shutting down long distance running. If people want to show up, let the show go on.

That seems high. Where do you get that start from? So 1/3 every NYC marathons someone dies? But I agree with principle.

And at least rojo was saying he was being sensible he would not go to something like this, why are people having a go? The article is somewhat biased, pretty much everything is these days unfortunately, and we do no service to anyone by not admitting it. I would say an article is biased whether it is left or right, I would not say one isn't just because I am left, or say one is because it is to the right, or vice versa, I would rather go on the truth...

Monkeys typing wrote:

We've seen little evidence flying increases COVID transmission. It would be one of the easiest things to track, we know what seat everyone sits on in a plane. So I'm fine with people flying.

I'm not aware of any federal level contact tracing that would produce this sort of evidence.

Various states/cities/countries have contact tracing. A plane is one of the simplest things to track as you know exactly where people sat which may not be the case on a bus/train.

My wife's cousin got called because he was on a plane with someone who had covid.