Only in 2020: Colorado vs Utah HS XC clash cancelled due to Covid so now the teams are flying to Alabama to clash

Smoke weed, talk sh!t like Lane Kiffin. wrote:

border war wrote:

Yeah, that is messed up.

It is a bit like shutting down an underage party because you are not comfortable with them drinking at your house and they all decide to go to another bigger party instead.

Same kids, different location, same risk. Although they are probably safer flying then driving.

Are you the cool parent who scores weed and booze for your teenagers and their friends?

No, actually I’d be the one shutting down the party only to find out everyone decided to go to an even bigger party instead. It was just an analogy of this no win situation. People are going to do what people are going to do as long as they have the means.

Precious Roy wrote:

My next door neighbor is an ICU nurse at a big children's hospital. They are seeing teenagers in ICU with acute COVID 19 cases. It is kids of all shapes and sizes from coach potato to jock. HS kids are not exempt from a bad case of COVID 19.

And this is really the XC equivalent of the Kardashian birthday party. These are obviously rich kids who have parents with cash to burn. Their special guys and girls trained so hard this year and need the results for college so mom and dad booked flights and hotels to get them a special race out of state so they won't miss out. Meanwhile, health care workers in Utah and Colorado are getting ripped to shreds with unending COVID 19 cases.

Parker Wolfe still went14:30 this season even after contracting Covid and suffering bad symptoms that continued through his training.

He's heading to Alabama this weekend.

But you won't have him to blame for any super spreader event this may become.

Mileage Varying wrote:

I agree that this is ridiculous, but Robert, there is a pandemic sweeping the country that is getting worse and worse. Why take an unnecessary risk and have a big cross country meet, where runners are in close contact and spitting/coughing on each other? Does it suck for the kids who've seasons have been cancelled? Of course. But life isn't fair, and people need to do what is right/safe.

You have absolutely no spine

Thank you for pointing out various divergences between my data (from many global sources) and CDC figures. All COVID data reflect definitional and statistical imprecision and are affected by the major flaws of Polymerase Chain Reaction (PCR) testing for diagnosis. PCR is an ingenious lab tool which takes an infinitesimal sample and multiplies it as much as a trillion times. Its Nobel Laureate inventor Kary Mullis frequently warned against its use for diagnosis. His critique is relevant to your objections to my figures. With millions of false positives distributed evenly across age groups, PCR necessarily exaggerates the proportion of younger victims in CDC and other such data. I have been writing about COVID and the lockdowns since March in the Wall Street Journal and online, have written forewords to two books on the subject, and am affiliated with AEIR, the sponsor of the Great Barrington Declaration on lockdown damages. Finally, though, the estimates are mine alone and are the product of long immersion in necessarily murky data.

Hope these comments give you your needed help.

Get well soon wrote:

Manbearpig15 wrote:

Thank you for speaking the truth.

Oh so if someone murdered a family member it wouldn’t matter because it’s only ONE person? NOOOOOOOOO

Would you shut down the country because of a murder?

What ever happened anyway wrote:

Footballer wrote:

Your chance of getting into a car accident is about the same as catching Covid and having symptoms. Did that stop you from traveling for Thanksgiving last year?

There are measures I can take on the road to greatly reduce my risk of dying in an accident. I can follow laws and local ordinances. I can avoid drivers who seem aggressive. I can drive a car with extra safety features. And if there's a sudden "pandemic" type increase in fatalities on the roads I think a lot more of us would stay put for a while. Also, I can't get into an accident by merely being near another vehicle, not know it and then spread the accident to my family at Thanksgiving.

So stay home. Scared little child.

What it does is provide ammo and reasons for people to ignore government directives.

Precious Roy wrote:

My next door neighbor is an ICU nurse at a big children's hospital. They are seeing teenagers in ICU with acute COVID 19 cases. It is kids of all shapes and sizes from coach potato to jock. HS kids are not exempt from a bad case of COVID 19.

Shenanigans.

lard wrote:

Mileage Varying wrote:

I agree that this is ridiculous, but Robert, there is a pandemic sweeping the country that is getting worse and worse. Why take an unnecessary risk and have a big cross country meet, where runners are in close contact and spitting/coughing on each other? Does it suck for the kids who've seasons have been cancelled? Of course. But life isn't fair, and people need to do what is right/safe.

You have absolutely no spine

You're backwards

I was just in Bama escaping the nonsense that is California. I attended a high school football game and a college game down in Tuscaloosa. I saw dozens of soccer clubs playing on a Friday night and my friend’s son left early on Saturday morning for cross country practice with his high school team. They’ve had a full cross season. Alabama is a beautiful state that is handling this sensibly.

Meanwhile the week before, I was out in a bike ride on a Saturday morning in California. I saw dozens of high school runners running around town. They should have been running at Mt. Sac that day, but all they are allowed to do is train. California has had nearly 1 million cases of Covid and yet only 16,000 people have died. People are going ignore the health orders and do what they want and need to live their lives.

ok smart one - give me a good explanation as to why are hospitals at near capacity ? this has not happened even in your short lifetime -

Were you born yesterday?

healthcare wrote:

ok smart one - give me a good explanation as to why are hospitals at near capacity ? this has not happened even in your short lifetime -

Covid patients currently make up 8% of hospital capacity, which is overall lower than normal currently.

Hardloper wrote:

healthcare wrote:

ok smart one - give me a good explanation as to why are hospitals at near capacity ? this has not happened even in your short lifetime -

Covid patients currently make up 8% of hospital capacity, which is overall lower than normal currently.

But what percentage of ICU units are they taking up? And why are some hospitals having to send patients to other hospitals? And since we are talking math, why are trends of positive tests, hospitalizations and deaths increasing? But then again, Obama was born in Kenya and he is going to turn the country into a Muslim country.

Picture this: you are inside a public common space at a nationally-ranked university, the sun is setting beautifully on a crisp fall evening, not wearing a mask, browsing the internet, and looking forward to going to a college football game in person on Saturday. You, along with many of your peers, tested positive for COVID months ago, showed few symptoms, and moved on relatively quickly. You encounter no people on a regular basis over the age of 25, other than seeing teachers in passing. You are free to run as and where you please, as science should approve, and you can freely move about the city. Your local high schools are playing sports, just not packing stadiums too tightly, and everyone wears their masks when talking to the old folks.

Alabama usually gets trashed, but many areas around the state have handled COVID with common sense rather than drinking some hierarchical koolaid and life is somewhat normal. I encourage you to visit sometime this fall/winter, and maybe enjoy a socially distanced XC meet this weekend.

Dr. Ouche wrote:

And why are some hospitals having to send patients to other hospitals? .

Isolated areas with large populations.

Obamacare set up to herd people into certain hospitals to "stay in the system" . You can't go to the "other" hospital because you will not be covered.

ggilder wrote:

It's hard for liberal arts grads like me to grasp but covid is no threat at all to 99.99 percent of us. But the politicians in their imbecilic masks are a threat to the world, bringing a UN projection of 100s of millions of deaths by starvation in the third world.

Meanwhile, in my outdoor races, I am counselled to don a mask at the starting line and whenever I pass anyone.

What you write about not being a thread to 99.99 percent of us isn't true (if you are an American and you are posting in America.) The reality is Covid has killed 250k in the US already. YEs many of them were old and may have died already but I'd be shocked if this ends with less than 330,000 US deaths. That's 1 in 1000 in the US. So it's clearly a threat to 1 in 1000 as it will have killed that many. So you are off by a factor of at least 10 even if we are talking about threat meaning "threat to death."

rojo wrote:

The reality is Covid has killed 250k in the US already. "

That may be your reality, but it's not everybody's reality.

I believe 250k died WITH covid. I don't believe 250k died BECAUSE of covid.

The chance surviving this is 99.9%. If you think 99.9% or 99.99% seems different to the average person, it does not. If my risk of lving through anesthesia is 99.9% or 99.99%, I can't tell the difference. 99.9% chance that I don't die from Covid but the alternative is wearing a mask and not having Thanksgiving and shutting down indoor track and hurting the economy and increasing suicides, 99.9% sounds great to about 99.9% of us.