CarbonFiberJoe wrote:
Well actually, Covid deniers are not scared of the world and would prefer to leave the house. If they never left the house you wouldn't be complaining would you.
"Well actually, dumb people aren't actually dumb, they are smart"
I'm convinced.
It's just general anti-authority. They are scared of a changing world (rather that changing with it) - a younger, global, more diverse population is supplanting the Gen X/boomers as the top of the hierarchy in the US/world. Thus, there natural response is REJECT any authority/expertise/etc. as gives them that semblance of control they so desperately cling to. So, you see why anything suggested is outright rejected for hilarious, conflicting reasons.
Harambe wrote:
Smoove wrote:
I don't understand why those who have been lamenting about how badly the lockdowns that we have endured have hurt our economy are also against vaccines that will protect people enough to allow our economy to reopen.
They just reject anything that isn't "do nothing and pretend it doesn't exist."
Testing
Death count
Vaccines
Stay at home orders
Other restrictions
Nothing is acceptable.
For some they don't even admit the virus is real.
The people don't leave the house they're so scared of the world -- but the internet lets us laugh at them daily :)
Smoove wrote:
The Unkle wrote:
So those of us who have remained healthy throughout should get two shots filled with poison?
Covid Beliebers are weak minded
As is often the case, I agree with Harambe.
Vaccines are not poison. The negative hype around vaccines was not only unsubstantiated, but affirmatively proven to be wholly unfounded. There is no reasonable basis for concluding that vaccines are poison. The worst to be said about a tested vaccine is that there may be adverse consequences as a result of taking it, but that in and of itself does not make them poison or anything close to it.
And the side effects of the Covid vaccines out there seem to last for about a day or so.
I don't understand why those who have been lamenting about how badly the lockdowns that we have endured have hurt our economy are also against vaccines that will protect people enough to allow our economy to reopen.
As is often with the easily fooled I disagree. Vaccine injuries and deaths have been in the millions over decades. Countless lawsuits. There is a reason why the manufacturers are now being protected from being sued. You actually don't need a vaccine for anything. Are you that brainwashed??
I have never met a successful, happy, healthy, rational, level headed person who is not skeptical regarding vaccines. Think about it.
JoggyHobber wrote:
Ill start off by saying I wouldn't be jumping the gun to roll up my sleeves
I'd get it. I don't see the point in waiting, I am healthy and it's already been tested on tens of thousands of people.
CLEVER (not really) attempt here. Millions of people have reported side-effects like "injection site pain," over the decades from the billions of vaccine doses given. By lumping deaths in with "injuries" (read: mild side-effects). You can make a "factually true" claim (millions of deaths/injuries) that completely misrepresents the extreme safety of modern vaccines. 2005 called. They want their vaccine scare tactics back!
Running with vaxx wrote:
Smoove wrote:
As is often the case, I agree with Harambe.
Vaccines are not poison. The negative hype around vaccines was not only unsubstantiated, but affirmatively proven to be wholly unfounded. There is no reasonable basis for concluding that vaccines are poison. The worst to be said about a tested vaccine is that there may be adverse consequences as a result of taking it, but that in and of itself does not make them poison or anything close to it.
And the side effects of the Covid vaccines out there seem to last for about a day or so.
I don't understand why those who have been lamenting about how badly the lockdowns that we have endured have hurt our economy are also against vaccines that will protect people enough to allow our economy to reopen.
As is often with the easily fooled I disagree. Vaccine injuries and deaths have been in the millions over decades. Countless lawsuits. There is a reason why the manufacturers are now being protected from being sued. You actually don't need a vaccine for anything. Are you that brainwashed??
No.
The medical profession in this country just LOVES to hand out drugs or shots for things that many people wouldn’t need if they just were proactive about their health. Basically, everyone pays higher insurance premiums so that 1/2 of the country can take blood pressure meds, diabetes meds, cholesterol meds...etc. Obesity is the key pre-existing condition for Covid.
Most of these medications are not needed when people exercise and eat a healthy enough diet.
I think the shot should be given to people age 65 and up, cancer patients, and those with asthma.
slripe111 wrote:
Is anyone else rooting for the plague? My genuine hope is that it mutates out of control and starts snatching lives left and right. Why are people so afraid to die or kill? As Americans we do it everyday, whether it be developing land in a far away land and destroying the inhabitants way of life leading many of them to die, or revenge drone bombing in reaction to “terrorism”, or sponsoring military juntas to massacre native peoples. You see it happens everyday, the only difference is mass media justifies or negates it for us. I think that if we as individuals cultivate this uncanny talent for rationalizing our own selfish points of view this corona thing will begin to look like a god send. Anyways just my two cents, but based on the posts it does seem the world would be a better place if the majority of you were not in it.
You’re not the only one wishing for a slaughter. Humans are the worst thing to happen to this planet. This virus could be a way to bring our population numbers to a more reasonable level for the planet, but it’s not deadly enough yet.
Here's how vaccinations work, i.e. they don't:
Here's how vaccinations caused the Spanish flu vaccination disaster:
oh yeah? wrote:
https://globetechcdn.com/hospimedica/images/stories/articles/article_images/2016-08-24/DJB-476.jpgpavement88 wrote:
If my general practitioner tells me it is safe, I would trust her and take the vaccine with no hesitation.
See, she has a medical degree and I trust her. I did my due diligence on choosing my doctor years ago so I don't have to play armchair quarterback with my health and the health of my family.
Recently in the USA, there have been about 700,000 direct abortions annually. It is fascinating, to me anyway, how some deaths are not counted as deaths.
The Dirty Duck wrote:
-70 degrees wrote:
Source? I haven't seen this stated anywhere.
LOL.
Well, good news for anyone planning to inject frozen vaccine: the new Moderna vaccine can be shipped at 25 degrees. Twenty million more of us can be vaccinated this year, and up to a billion next year. By then, most of the trumpers will have immunity (or death, sadly) from exposure, too. So we really could be on top of this by Easter!
I think you’re overlooking Gov. Cuomo and others who, though not Trumpers,, are urging a go-slow approach.
dunes runner wrote:
Here's how vaccinations caused the Spanish flu vaccination disaster:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/99ZX4vva3of0/
I'm not familiar with bitchute,com, but I suspect it's a highly-regarded scientific source.
Plague Docteur wrote:
slripe111 wrote:
Is anyone else rooting for the plague? My genuine hope is that it mutates out of control and starts snatching lives left and right. Why are people so afraid to die or kill? As Americans we do it everyday, whether it be developing land in a far away land and destroying the inhabitants way of life leading many of them to die, or revenge drone bombing in reaction to “terrorism”, or sponsoring military juntas to massacre native peoples. You see it happens everyday, the only difference is mass media justifies or negates it for us. I think that if we as individuals cultivate this uncanny talent for rationalizing our own selfish points of view this corona thing will begin to look like a god send. Anyways just my two cents, but based on the posts it does seem the world would be a better place if the majority of you were not in it.
You’re not the only one wishing for a slaughter. Humans are the worst thing to happen to this planet. This virus could be a way to bring our population numbers to a more reasonable level for the planet, but it’s not deadly enough yet.
Like most selfish people, I agree. Let it kill off the weak, the old, the homeless crackheads and the devoted Trump supporters but once it may start impacting my life more than just throwing a mask on my face on my out in public, it can go away.
look at comparative risk wrote:
Even for the healthiest person the risk of getting the virus and then having a severe reaction to it, either death or a lingering serious ailments would be in the one in a thousand range.
That is for any adult over 20 the risk of something serious from covid-19 would be in the lowest range 1 in 4000 or 5000
The risk of something serious and long-term damage happening from a vaccine would be in the one in 1 in a million range
And actually for the vaccine probably much lower are probably like one in ten million
Anyway it's just simple math to see that the danger is much more with being exposed to the virus than the vaccine
This 100%. Plus, if I got the vaccine I'd be able to see my grandparents without worrying about getting them infected.
The original question was "would you" but, as is predictable, the debate has turned into "should you."
Let those who want the vaccine get it, drop all COVID restrictions, and let's get on with living. (and dying)
Nearly everyone will be getting the vaccine. Nearly all employers will require it to return to the office/factory/warehouse. School districts and universities will require it if a student wishes to set foot on campus and play sports. Nations will require it for travel to their land from the United States.
Self-employment, home schooling, or some sort of religious or health exemption will be the only means of avoiding the jab. In some states, those exemptions may not be recognized. You will have until May or June to make your decision.
Banned in 60 Seconds wrote:
Nearly everyone will be getting the vaccine. Nearly all employers will require it to return to the office/factory/warehouse. School districts and universities will require it if a student wishes to set foot on campus and play sports. Nations will require it for travel to their land from the United States.
Self-employment, home schooling, or some sort of religious or health exemption will be the only means of avoiding the jab. In some states, those exemptions may not be recognized. You will have until May or June to make your decision.
This is the best part :)
All these internet tough guys will be "yes sir, I'll have my shot by next week" to their boss when the time comes.
I don't think I would be immediately taking the vaccine because of the way it would be rolled out.
Not feasible to vaccinate the whole county in one month.
I would be down the list of where it would be prioritized.
I am healthy and not very old.
I don't work in a situation where I have close contact with people.
I'm not in a hurry to travel.
I have children who are high school students and my wife is a teacher.
They all would be in line to get it before me.
But it would come to my turn at some point to reduce risk of me spreading it to them who in turn can spread it in school.
So, no I would not immediately take a covid vaccine but I would do it earlier than I would normally like as a duty to my community.
Hobby_Jogger_999 wrote:
Let those who want the vaccine get it, drop all COVID restrictions, and let's get on with living. (and dying)
I completely agree with this.
