Ill start off by saying I wouldn't be jumping the gun to roll up my sleeves
Ill start off by saying I wouldn't be jumping the gun to roll up my sleeves
Yep. If you know how the process to get a drug to market works you would know that the government has very little pull. The only thing that was sped up in the process was the paperwork.
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavirus-biontech-ceo-newsm-idUKKBN27P1NX
I personally wouldn't hesitate. I even tried getting in the pfizer trial but couldn't get it to fit with my schedule. Very little risk with a single individual.
The real question is how objectively the results will be scrutinized by the FDA. There's immense pressure to downplay the negatives and highlight the positives(both for pfizer and for the govt).
When administering a drug to healthy people there needs to be an extremely high bar for safety. The risk isn't on the individual level. It's on the population level. The number needed to treat/harm needs to be heavily scrutinized.
I would, assuming there's a proper scientific scrutiny. Risk seems low, and if something happened, my (quite unlikely) death could be useful so that a better vaccine was produced. It would.be like the most useful thing I would have ever done I think.
Even for the healthiest person the risk of getting the virus and then having a severe reaction to it, either death or a lingering serious ailments would be in the one in a thousand range.
That is for any adult over 20 the risk of something serious from covid-19 would be in the lowest range 1 in 4000 or 5000
The risk of something serious and long-term damage happening from a vaccine would be in the one in 1 in a million range
And actually for the vaccine probably much lower are probably like one in ten million
Anyway it's just simple math to see that the danger is much more with being exposed to the virus than the vaccine
I’d get it ASAP. I’m a teacher......plus I like my lungs....
Maybe 6 months to a year after introduction so they can ferret out the side effects and to see if it really is that effective as the virus is mutating.
If getting a vaccine means I can travel international again, I'm getting it ASAP. I imagine it could be noted in my little card that shows all the other vaccines I've had over the years.
I already have done it. I got myself in the Moderna trial. I am reasonably certain I got vaccine and not placebo. It felt like I had a hangover the next day after the shots and my runs were about 20 seconds/mile slower than usual. I'll get an antibody test sometime soon to know for sure.
70yr old science guy wrote:
I already have done it. I got myself in the Moderna trial. I am reasonably certain I got vaccine and not placebo. It felt like I had a hangover the next day after the shots and my runs were about 20 seconds/mile slower than usual. I'll get an antibody test sometime soon to know for sure.
Keep us posted, I’d be interested to know.
I had COVID in March and it sucked. Def wouldn’t want it again.
I would absolutely never get it.
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I'm very healthy, and would never get sick from an imaginary virus that doesn't exist.
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However, all vaccinations are toxic, dangerous, and cause afflictions such as autism, alzheimers, dementia and worse.
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Hopefully people will not be forced to get them, because that would be a death sentence.
I do encourage the people who've been perpetuating this fraud to get vaccinated right away.
Hey Doc, I do not know your age, you still may be familiar with SAR-type vaxx that was rushed during last year of Leslie King Jr. administration, 1976. There were hundreds who suffered paralysis from rushed vaxx, King administration.
This Pfizer vaxx is nothing like polio vaxx. Let's review: Only a 40,000 person study by Pfizer. Do not get sucked in by corporate hype by Pfizer and their 90% claim. Ninety percent for how long? If one needs a Pfizer vaxx every three or four months, that is not practical. This is classic Big Pharma Rent Seeking.
Recall under Leslie King Jr. administration, paralysis roughly one per (750,000 to 875,000). A 40,000 person study? Healthy people will suffer under this rushed vaxx. Healthy people who would have survived covid-19. I am 100% with healthcare workers statements in regard to masks. I believe U.S. should shut down coffee shops, bars & restaurants to slow down the spread of covid-19. In regard to Big Pharma and their covid-19 vaxx, we disagree.
I will take the vaccine but I will not be first in line to do so. I'll probably wait a good 3-6 months to see how it affects other people first. Y'all can be guinea pigs!
The vaccine has to be kept at negative 70 degrees or it is inactivated. Are people insane to not realize how much damage injecting any amount of -70 degree fluid into your body will do?
I don't understand how the public is buying into this, and I REALLY don't understand how the scientists who are developing this thing aren't predicting the obvious problem.
And since then we have had what > 10 vaccines brought to market with no unexpected serious adverse reactions. So your risk of 1/850,000 is ten times lower given the likelihood that a rare AE will be unearthed with an new vaccine. So do the math - risk with Covid is much greater even for a healthy person. I’m a health care worker and should be first in line - I’ll definitely take it when I’m offered.
JoggyHobber wrote:
Ill start off by saying I wouldn't be jumping the gun to roll up my sleeves
Give it to all the liberals first.
-70 degrees wrote:
The vaccine has to be kept at negative 70 degrees or it is inactivated. Are people insane to not realize how much damage injecting any amount of -70 degree fluid into your body will do?
I don't understand how the public is buying into this, and I REALLY don't understand how the scientists who are developing this thing aren't predicting the obvious problem.
I assume you’re trolling, but on the off chance that you aren’t: it isn’t -70 degrees when it is injected, you halfwit.
You are foolish. There was a death with Johnson & Johnson. There have been multiple nerve damage cases with mobility issues (paralysis) with Astra Zeneca &/or Moderna. Where do you work and what is your job title? Are you a 1st year nursing student who does not know sh&t? What do you mean brought to market? None of these corporations have unleashed their vaccines on U.S. citizens.
JoggyHobber wrote:
Ill start off by saying I wouldn't be jumping the gun to roll up my sleeves
For me - it's a NO
For liberal sheep and other assorted pvssies - it's a YES
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