COVID cannot have "unlimited exponential growth potential" because the population of the planet is finite. And the "science" that some people insist is real has already suggested that some people do in face have immunity.
In addition to population being finite, viruses that induce immunity are self-limiting. They can only spread aggressively in early stages; as you get closer and closer to the herd immunity threshold, growth will slow, then decline, and eventually stop altogether.
Anybody who uses the definition COVID CASE based on a PCR test for SARSCoV2 with no diagnostic confirmation of Covid19 symptoms is either ignorant, a fraudster or a charlatan.
Or a Pharma Presstitute.
Allen53 wrote:
Anybody who uses the definition COVID CASE based on a PCR test for SARSCoV2 with no diagnostic confirmation of Covid19 symptoms is either ignorant, a fraudster or a charlatan.
Or a Pharma Presstitute.
I know you're just trying to make Covid deniers look bad, but you're being too obviously stupid.
Now that's telling it like it is wrote:
It's kinda funny in a way: A 72 yr old clinically obese, sedentary man, in one of the highest stress jobs walks away from the infection in just a few short days getting the last laugh.
This irks the fearmongering Left to no end and shows that the virus is way overblown & overhyped.
No joke.
The older, liberal members of my family are convinced that Trump faked his cv-19 diagnosis and paid off all those doctors at Walter Reed to go along with his scam.
They're convinced it's a death sentence.
Man Overboard wrote:
Now that's telling it like it is wrote:
It's kinda funny in a way: A 72 yr old clinically obese, sedentary man, in one of the highest stress jobs walks away from the infection in just a few short days getting the last laugh.
This irks the fearmongering Left to no end and shows that the virus is way overblown & overhyped.
No joke.
The older, liberal members of my family are convinced that Trump faked his cv-19 diagnosis and paid off all those doctors at Walter Reed to go along with his scam.
They're convinced it's a death sentence.
It has been for 240,000 Americans so far.
In one week you have gone from 100,000 new infections - a world leader - to 140, 000.
Armstronglivs wrote:
Man Overboard wrote:
No joke.
The older, liberal members of my family are convinced that Trump faked his cv-19 diagnosis and paid off all those doctors at Walter Reed to go along with his scam.
They're convinced it's a death sentence.
It has been for 240,000 Americans so far.
In one week you have gone from 100,000 new infections - a world leader - to 140, 000.
They are still paying you even after Dementia Joe won? I guess they figure might as well get as much mileage as they can out of the scamdemic? Destroy more small businesses, throw more people out of work, cause more distress so will be easier to begin the totalitarian takeover of democracy.
Armstronglivs wrote:
Man Overboard wrote:
[quote]Now that's telling it like it is wrote:
It's kinda funny in a way: A 72 yr old clinically obese, sedentary man, in one of the highest stress jobs walks away from the infection in just a few short days getting the last laugh.
This irks the fearmongering Left to no end and shows that the virus is way overblown & overhyped.
No joke.
The older, liberal members of my family are convinced that Trump faked his cv-19 diagnosis and paid off all those doctors at Walter Reed to go along with his scam.
They're convinced it's a death sentence.
It has been for 240,000 Americans so far.
With a median age of 80 plus, 94% of whom had at least one other life threatening condition, and nearly half of these deaths taking place in nursing homes (with a median life expectancy of five months), how many of these 240k people do you suppose would still be alive by year's end if there were no covid?
the media is corrupt wrote:
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They are still paying you even after Dementia Joe won? I guess they figure might as well get as much mileage as they can out of the scamdemic? Destroy more small businesses, throw more people out of work, cause more distress so will be easier to begin the totalitarian takeover of democracy.
That appears to be the agenda
the media is corrupt wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
It has been for 240,000 Americans so far.
In one week you have gone from 100,000 new infections - a world leader - to 140, 000.
They are still paying you even after Dementia Joe won? I guess they figure might as well get as much mileage as they can out of the scamdemic? Destroy more small businesses, throw more people out of work, cause more distress so will be easier to begin the totalitarian takeover of democracy.
I am sure he and other fear monger are happily celebrating all the deaths, just because it makes them "right" in their eyes.
They don't want this to end. They want to be "right". So they want people to die.
Murderous hypocrites.
The Unkle wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
No joke.
The older, liberal members of my family are convinced that Trump faked his cv-19 diagnosis and paid off all those doctors at Walter Reed to go along with his scam.
They're convinced it's a death sentence.
It has been for 240,000 Americans so far.
With a median age of 80 plus, 94% of whom had at least one other life threatening condition, and nearly half of these deaths taking place in nursing homes (with a median life expectancy of five months), how many of these 240k people do you suppose would still be alive by year's end if there were no covid?
I don't get why this is lost on everyone. No one is saying that the lives of the elderly are disposable, but we are destroying the lives of millions of children by what we are doing to (attempt to) protect mostly 80+ year olds. I'm literally sitting in a classroom right now with 1 student in it sitting at laptop. This is my first day in school since the end of Oct. because we had to positive asymptomatic test results and I was "exposed" to them. These kids are truly f'd. And the politicians who claim to care so much about the poor and disadvantaged are doing nothing but broadening the already wide achievement gap. It sucks. And if you think we have a shrinking middle class now, let's look at things in 15-20 years when we have a generation of kids who not only grew up poor, but grew up with no education, no socialization, greater risk of abuse, etc. Meanwhile, an email went out to all principals in NYC last night to prepare for another extended school closing.
Open everything. Protect the most vulnerable.
DanM wrote:
The original pre-COVID projection was for over 2.5 Million Americans to die from Jan. 1, 2020 to today (316 days).
How many have actually died ?
Basic facts would be helpful.
That number was based on not taking any protective/preventative measures- business as usual/let it rip. We did not take that course, and the death toll is lower.
browski wrote:
The Unkle wrote:
It has been for 240,000 Americans so far.
With a median age of 80 plus, 94% of whom had at least one other life threatening condition, and nearly half of these deaths taking place in nursing homes (with a median life expectancy of five months), how many of these 240k people do you suppose would still be alive by year's end if there were no covid?
I don't get why this is lost on everyone. No one is saying that the lives of the elderly are disposable, but we are destroying the lives of millions of children by what we are doing to (attempt to) protect mostly 80+ year olds. I'm literally sitting in a classroom right now with 1 student in it sitting at laptop. This is my first day in school since the end of Oct. because we had to positive asymptomatic test results and I was "exposed" to them. These kids are truly f'd. And the politicians who claim to care so much about the poor and disadvantaged are doing nothing but broadening the already wide achievement gap. It sucks. And if you think we have a shrinking middle class now, let's look at things in 15-20 years when we have a generation of kids who not only grew up poor, but grew up with no education, no socialization, greater risk of abuse, etc. Meanwhile, an email went out to all principals in NYC last night to prepare for another extended school closing.
Open everything. Protect the most vulnerable.
It would be great if we could shield the vulnerable and deal with the virus in an effective way. But it seems our society doesn't have a clue how to deal with a public health crisis. God help us if there was war or when climate change becomes undeniable.
Posts like yours seem to be an admission of failure - we don't know what to do so do nothing and go back to normal.
This is an easily spreadable respiratory disease with no known cure that can be fatal if you are very sick or old. At some point a majority of us will be exposed and probably become infected. Why this shocked about this?
Until there is a vaccine/herd immunity this is just part of life. We cannot remain shut down forever, at best we can do is muddle through, but no politician has the answer, no politician is going to "save" you from this. They don't know any more than the rest of us.
browski wrote:
The Unkle wrote:
It has been for 240,000 Americans so far.
With a median age of 80 plus, 94% of whom had at least one other life threatening condition, and nearly half of these deaths taking place in nursing homes (with a median life expectancy of five months), how many of these 240k people do you suppose would still be alive by year's end if there were no covid?
I don't get why this is lost on everyone. No one is saying that the lives of the elderly are disposable, but we are destroying the lives of millions of children by what we are doing to (attempt to) protect mostly 80+ year olds. I'm literally sitting in a classroom right now with 1 student in it sitting at laptop. This is my first day in school since the end of Oct. because we had to positive asymptomatic test results and I was "exposed" to them. These kids are truly f'd. And the politicians who claim to care so much about the poor and disadvantaged are doing nothing but broadening the already wide achievement gap. It sucks. And if you think we have a shrinking middle class now, let's look at things in 15-20 years when we have a generation of kids who not only grew up poor, but grew up with no education, no socialization, greater risk of abuse, etc. Meanwhile, an email went out to all principals in NYC last night to prepare for another extended school closing.
Open everything. Protect the most vulnerable.
You're right. I wonder what type of education my kids are truly getting and they go to supposedly decent schools. My younger kid who goes in 2 out of 6 days when we're not in the red zone is constantly being tested and isnt getting much peer socialization.
The have nots are really getting screwed in NYC. At least families with parents and or money can provide enrichment activities. No reason for suburban schools to follow our model and close the way they have been.
people need to chill and realize that quarantining isn't actually ruining kids lives. its just what needs to happen to stop the spread. its selfish to think "oh im healthy i can't get it" what??? that is not true. also are you so selfish that you are willing to risk other peoples lives just for your own personal enjoyment? what if some idiot gave ur grandma covid and she died?
Who mentioned "personal enjoyment"? And yes, my child's life is more important than every grandma (including both of his, as they will 100% agree) life on this planet.
Also, you have zero clue what is happening to school children right now, especially in urban areas. For many of my students, school was their only escape from abuse.
But yeah, f them for your 85 year old granny who has less than a year left anyway.
how about we kill all the adults because they are going to die sooner than the kids anyway?
dumbest thing i've ever heard
123 wrote:
how about we kill all the adults because they are going to die sooner than the kids anyway?
dumbest thing i've ever heard
but wait, lets kill the children and babies too, because they will die sooner that the unborn children
123 wrote:
how about we kill all the adults because they are going to die sooner than the kids anyway?
dumbest thing i've ever heard
you're the one who said it.