Pfizer vaccine 90% effective

UsedToBeKnowItAll wrote:

Press release said 50 million doses in 2020 and 1.3B in 2021. My guess is elderly and health care workers will be given priority. Meaning it might be an option for the common person late next year? Around the same time you normally get the flu vaccine.

Big question will be whether and to what extent Biden administration will use the Defense Production Act to speed up the supply chain. Pfizer vax is a two dose vaccine that must be kept at -80 deg. The other big question is whether the government will step in to help keep other vax candidates that target the same protein alive. An emergency use approval for Pfizer will certainly mean that privately funded efforts on a number of candidates in the pipeline will evaporate. Those candidates include vaccines that are much easier to administer. The first generation of covid 19 vaccines will mean that we can get back to our lives. But the second generation could potentially mean elimination of the virus.

Of course, the vaccine is only as good as its percentage of population coverage. 90% effective vaccine requires 80% of the population to take it. This nightmare might not be over if the right wingers go all in with the antivaxxer movement.

But for now, this is big news and shows that herd immunity and all the anti-lockdown crap has caused deaths and illness that are 100% preventable.

BLM!! wrote:

Corona 10k wrote:

So does that mean we can run indoor track?

Probably not, vaccine distribution may take some time to work out (assuming this vaccine and others hold up through peer-review).

Peer review. Lol.

Vaccine distribution logistics. Lol.

Lead Foil Hat wrote:

sub sub elite local hobby jogger wrote:

So you're okay with another few hundred thousands deaths above baseline while we roll over and accept the pipe dream of herd immunity? Okay.

A few hundred thousand? Really, a fan of UW are you? No, won't happen....that is a left wing pipe dream. How do you people live in a world divergent from both reality and optimism at the same time. This is really the heart of the right-left issue; one group now represents "we'll never be fine".....and the other "we are good, move along". It is sad really.

I don't know what UW is. I don't see the world in a false dichotomy. I don't know who "you people" are. Most of us will fine but we also could be better. The world exists is a varied and chaotic state that is difficult for our tiny brains to comprehend. Science, statistics, conclusions based on available evidence help sort it out into a more comprehensible package.

Now what is really sad is your poor use of grammar and punctuation. Learn how to properly use an ellipse.

sub sub elite local hobby jogger wrote:

Finally proves that Covid was all political! If it wasn't they would have release this news before the election but THEY didn't want to Trump to get re-elected. It's all rigged! The Deep State, Corrupt Dems, Media, Big Pharma, and Corporate Elites all in on it! (did i miss anyone?).

Yes. The virus was lab created and the fear mongering was perpetuated by controlling/SELFISH govt, sheep people and fake news media. Before every election something happens to try and secure or alter the public vote. Covid was the thing this time. They needed something crazy and different along with election fraud to secure trump being out.

And just like that Libs love big pharma again! 90% effective they claim. Lol

oh....so when Trump stated during the last debate that a vaccine was around the corner and you all called him a liar and that it wouldn't be available for another 12-18 months he was actually telling the truth?

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhocking.

ReallybroReally wrote:

trollism wrote:

100% this.

He hasn't even started his presidency and he's already achieved more than Trump.

Thanks Joe.

No it’s not, it is Pfizer’s achievement alone.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/pfizers-head-vaccine-development-notes-145930453.html

um Trump is still President so this would be his achievement, moran

ReallybroReally wrote:

trollism wrote:

100% this.

He hasn't even started his presidency and he's already achieved more than Trump.

Thanks Joe.

um Trump is still President so this would be his achievement, moran

No it is Pfizer’s achievement, alone.

Nope we can't speed up the process, as per the Ds that will put people at risk and we should refuse to take the vaccine then!!!

well that did not happen wrote:

That’s funny because one candidate said many times during the debates a vaccine would be here any day now, before the end of the year. And everyone laughed at him. I’m not a Trump fan but c’mon. This feeds right into his base.

Who is invested in the vaccine?

Trump said we would have it by election day. So you rolled down to the store today and got your shot right? This is promising news. But it is a vaccine candidate. Normally it takes years to progress from this state to actually shipping. Even with the fast tracking we are still probably looking at 2-4 months assuming everything goes well. The other half dozen companies trying to make a vaccine are in roughly the same boat.

adsfdasfasfsafadfa wrote:

well that did not happen wrote:

That’s funny because one candidate said many times during the debates a vaccine would be here any day now, before the end of the year. And everyone laughed at him. I’m not a Trump fan but c’mon. This feeds right into his base.

Who is invested in the vaccine?

Trump said we would have it by election day. So you rolled down to the store today and got your shot right? This is promising news. But it is a vaccine candidate. Normally it takes years to progress from this state to actually shipping. Even with the fast tracking we are still probably looking at 2-4 months assuming everything goes well. The other half dozen companies trying to make a vaccine are in roughly the same boat.

Can you cite this please?

Lead Foil Hat wrote:

So you're okay with another few hundred thousands deaths above baseline while we roll over and accept the pipe dream of herd immunity? Okay.

A few hundred thousand? Really, a fan of UW are you? No, won't happen....that is a left wing pipe dream. How do you people live in a world divergent from both reality and optimism at the same time. This is really the heart of the right-left issue; one group now represents "we'll never be fine".....and the other "we are good, move along". It is sad really.[/quote]

300k excess deaths already. Deaths still rising with cases. No reason to expect this to change. “This time it’s herd immunity” the deniers scream for the 3rd time.

Fool me once...

adsfdasfasfsafadfa wrote:

well that did not happen wrote:

That’s funny because one candidate said many times during the debates a vaccine would be here any day now, before the end of the year. And everyone laughed at him. I’m not a Trump fan but c’mon. This feeds right into his base.

Who is invested in the vaccine?

Trump said we would have it by election day. So you rolled down to the store today and got your shot right? This is promising news. But it is a vaccine candidate. Normally it takes years to progress from this state to actually shipping. Even with the fast tracking we are still probably looking at 2-4 months assuming everything goes well. The other half dozen companies trying to make a vaccine are in roughly the same boat.

Also note that Trump had NOTHING to do with the Pfizer vaccine. They did not participate in operation warp speed. Likely because they know the Trump admin could never pull off something like that.

All self-funded by Pfizer.

It's a miracle. We have successfully eradicated only two viruses : smallpox and rinderpest.

Flu vaccines have on a 40% effective rate. Pfizer has come up with a 90% effective vaccine for Covid? Did they test old people with co-morbidities? Sure. Got a bridge in Brooklyn for sale?

https://ivaccinate.org/about-vaccines/vaccines-are-effective/

Precious Roy wrote:

Of course, the vaccine is only as good as its percentage of population coverage. 90% effective vaccine requires 80% of the population to take it. This nightmare might not be over if the right wingers go all in with the antivaxxer movement.

More fear mongering, division and conflict created by you.

You should be ashamed.

Covid is simply the new label being applied globally to all seasonal viral infections, as part of the current popular propaganda and fear porn that has replaced terrorism and the various wars on words, like poverty , crime , and drugs. What is truly frightening is that 70% of masses in the so called developed world have embraced this panic without protest.

Welcome to the health-industrial complex.

Here's what you're being vaccinated for:

Scenario 5 (Current Best Estimate) per CDC Infection Fatality Rate:

0-19 years: 0.00003

20-49 years: 0.0002

50-69 years: 0.005

70 year olds: 0.054

123 5 wrote:

Precious Roy wrote:

Of course, the vaccine is only as good as its percentage of population coverage. 90% effective vaccine requires 80% of the population to take it. This nightmare might not be over if the right wingers go all in with the antivaxxer movement.

More fear mongering, division and conflict created by you.

You should be ashamed.

He has no shame- only investments.

It's Bill Gates' wet dream to have everyone on the planet vaccinated:

https://www.geekwire.com/2020/bill-gates-says-world-will-need-7-billion-doses-covid-19-vaccine-stop-pandemic/amp/

With Gates heavily funding the WHO - it's mandatory vaccination time.

no government help wrote:

ReallybroReally wrote:

um Trump is still President so this would be his achievement, moran

No it is Pfizer’s achievement, alone.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/pfizers-head-vaccine-development-notes-145930453.html

Hahaha. Yahoo as your source? No wonder you people think this way.

Yes, Pfizer says so. Next time we ask a murderer if he did it and if he says no way we should be content with the answer and walk away.