Utter luck. Payne needs to learn to stay on his own feet. Check their bags, probably syringes EVERYWHERE. Either the race was fixed, or those boys cheated, I’ll say both! Miami will reclaim the title next fall. Lucky EMU again. Shame.
Utter luck. Payne needs to learn to stay on his own feet. Check their bags, probably syringes EVERYWHERE. Either the race was fixed, or those boys cheated, I’ll say both! Miami will reclaim the title next fall. Lucky EMU again. Shame.
Someonewhoknows wrote:
It is, but he was pushed. He lost at least 15 seconds and came back and lost by 2. So, no guarantee he would have won, but a decent chance. He ran the best race today.[/quote]
I misread your original post. You said he "likely" would have won. I read he "would" have won. Likely would have won is a fair statement. But then you give how many seconds he lost etc. If he had not lost time he might have pushed too hard to try to break away, waited too long and got outkicked, or who knows. Why not, "the athlete fell early and ran a great race to get within two seconds of the winner."
I agree... it really is all speculative. I've heard the fall looked pretty jarring, so for someone to say he likely would've covered the 8k course in 23:50 or faster had he not fallen seems realistic to me. My problem is when someone uses that assumption to assert that he definitely would've won. Park unleashed quite an impressive last 200 meters, pulling away from Andy by over 2 seconds, and Andy was NOT going slow. Maybe Park could've gone with Andy if he forced the pace from farther out and beaten him 23:48 to 23:49 or something? so many possibilities. All we can do is celebrate Josh Park for the victory and stellar time in what I believe is his final XC race, and be impressed at Andy Payne's race and the talent and fitness required to pull something like that off. He's really come a long way lately, not that his first 2 years of college were all that disappointing, he was good in highschool but nothing insane.
LOLnochance wrote:
Utter luck. Payne needs to learn to stay on his own feet. Check their bags, probably syringes EVERYWHERE. Either the race was fixed, or those boys cheated, I’ll say both! Miami will reclaim the title next fall. Lucky EMU again. Shame.
Nah. Word is that if the contact the Miami runner created happened on a track, he would have been DQd. Has nothing to do with learning to stay on his feet. You're not allowed to body check someone into a fence.
You think putting 4 in the top 10 was lucky? Whatever. All sophomores and freshmen too.
Miami will win next season? Based on what? Losing the Torpys? EMU just had the top three returners in the whole conference finish 2-3-4. With Park gone, that could easily be 1-2-3, and EMU has depth beyond that. They just put 4 in the top 10.
Yes it is speculative. I didn't say he "definitely" would have won. I said "likely". That's a fair assumption. He lost 15 seconds there and had to catch back up and try to win in a sprint to the finish when that's not his thing, and he lost by 2.4 seconds. Nothing against Park. Certainly not his fault. Seems that the Miami runners play dirty, and it's unfortunate we didn't get to see who would have won without that BS. Maybe Miami should try proper training to try to win rather than do that crap.
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