You want me to comment on the MSM media being white supremacists?
In that case you need to tell me as this is the first time I've read that you claim them to be...
In reality I think you are pointing to a certain robber baron family's link to eugenics, their influence on global policies and the fact they came up with the word "sustainable development" already in the 1960s...
Am I wrong?
I happen to know a brilliant italian climate researcher..
We've had several long nights discussing those things while smoking spliffs.
Brilliant "sessions"!
What can I say?
He is not in on anything!
I am mentioning this, as for climate change to be a hoax, pretty much all climate researchers on earth (They must be a signifcant 6 figure number of people by now.. Wouldn't you guess too?), would have to be in on it..
This astounding number of scientists would also have to be in kahoots with all world governments, media outlets etc etc..
This is probably not the place to discuss the strengths and weaknessess of those kind of theories..
I'll leave conspiracies with pointing out that Mr. Dotconnector himself, David Fecking Icke, doesn't dispute global warming, just what causes it, and that another extremely famous one, Mr. Infowars, doesn't believe in "Magic"..
Leaving conspiracies aside:
I don't find MSM to be an uniform group.
The Guardian and FoxNews are both mainstream and I can't say they are similar at all..
Well, to be fair, they both acknowledge Biden won the election, so I suppose they do agree on some of the most obvious stuff..
In a previous answer to you I have written a variety of sources I use to make up my mind on what goes on in the world.
It most definately includesMSM & mainstream science, yes.
It also includes very alternative sites....
Heck, I forgot to mention that I even had a subscription to Gaia.com for a few months.. (again for research purposes.. Some facinating stuff there..)
In betwen our exchange I have written that I find new ideas worth exploring rarely grows from the center...
I think if you practice your reading skills, you'll find that I actually answered the issue of "doom-mongering" as I said:
"Even if some "experts" might have an overly pesimistic outlook on things, I don't really think it matters"..
I then went on to tell you what the consensus was between different world leading research institutes on the arctic and climate change 20 years ago.
I must disgress a little here, as when I worked there, that was actually the first time I heard of David Icke.
There was common lunches at this place, with some really progressive talk, and I remember one of the scientists talking about David Icke and how he had some very interesting information and that he was quite facinated by what he had to say....
Until he started talking about shape shifting reptilians and stuff...
Anyways: Back to melting ice caps:
Those projections were nothing like the headlines in your article.
Those projections are still very much realistic 20 years on..
Some of the research reports focused not only on the bad, but even what economic gains might be utilized from the unfortunate development. (So there goes your "fear porn doom-mongering"...)
I also gave you very easy to grasp historic data..
And, as most deniers don't like to read this data, I linked to Nasa slide show.
Pictures don't demand any reading comprehension at all, just ability to compare the difference between pictures at the beginning and end of slide.
That site is actually kind of great by the way, with links to not only what goes on in the arctic, but to sea level change, temperatures changes and CO2 changes..
I also made sure to point out that projecting into the future is very difficult..
I gave you a link to a very depressing worst case scenario..
but made sure to reveal to you that the article also have a link to a best case scenario..
There is definately some HOPE that we might avoid worst case scenario as governments around the world are FINALLY showing some ambition.
And SOME, very much disputed scientists, will tell you it's too late already...
I don't base my opinion on those, because if they are correct, no matter what we do it won't matter much other than slightly moving the trajectories at best..
Being a father, I prefer to not give up but rather work for the globe being a place where my children can grow old.
Yeah.. Very much a naive hippie position to have, but hey.. I've spent years absorbing all kinds of material before becoming a spiritual hippie that by and large follow the evidence..
I've even revealed to you that I am even more concerned about the very real mass death of wildlife and plants on earth..
And the massive build up of micro plastic troubles me deeply...
So there you have it..
Call me brainwashed as much as you want, but atleast I can show/prove that I have gone to much longer extremes than most to see what kind of information is out there.
I have not reached my position because I haven't seen what the deniers are saying and what sources they have for that information..
I am very much open to change my opinions on pretty much all things if confronted with evidence.
I DO NEED EVIDENCE THOUGH..
On climate change, covid-19 and conspiracies...
Just a few questions for you Mr. Flipper.
I know you haven't said you are a conservative christian or anything, but more often than not, those with your world view are, so maybe you can help me..
Can you please explain to me how it makes sense for good conservative christians to not care about the destruction of our planet?
I mean, if one believe in God one should care that his creation is taken care of, or?
It just doesn't make sense to me, other, as mentioned, they've been brainwashed by religious leaders to deny reality because the end is imminent or something like that..
But even then it doesn't make sense to me, because those 144000 or whatever that gets through that very narrow door are surely not the ones that have contributed to the end of the world?
What am I missing here?
Please connect the dots for me..
And, as both I and Kaare have challenged you on:
Can you please provide links that shows covid-19 is a hoax?
And and specifically why the numbers in Sweden are fake?
I assume you haven't reached your position without EVIDENCE?
Please share it with us..
I promise to read what you post...