Budda wrote:
Lead Foil Hat 3 wrote:
Both your numbers and your analysis are wrong. It is diffucult to understand the Swedish deathnumbers, because of their reporting backwords. So for every day the numbers backwards grow, they are getting higher and higher. Example first reported 10 deaths on hte 10th, now it has grown to 19. A sober estimation, very careful, of the deaths this week 30-40 a day. And it is on the rise, whether you like it or not. What you write about Norway, and even Denmark is not true. I wonder why you write stuff like this. To day 600 new infections in Norway, Sweden five times more per 1 M, and there is no massive spike, actually it looks as it is flattening. Norway and Sweden is not very different when it comes to culture, social conditions etc. etc. and Stockholm and Oslo not that different when it comes immigrants and foreign population. Where they differ dramatically are in numbers of deaths and infections. But you just go on and go on with unsubstansiated claims. Nothing seems to stop you.But in times we are living in; you are one of my favorites over there, twisting reality so much that it doesn't disturb your "worldview". On Sweden and the Nordic countries you are falsified over and over again. And you go on calling other people liars and idiots, over and over again. I am included in your long list. No decency when it comes to facts, you are totally immune, and no resepct whatsoever when it comes to other people. Also in this "respect" you are my favorite American. Some time ago you wrote that I was living in a basement in NJ. Only once in NJ, At Rutgers. They do some science.
Rutgers? You are not Norwegian.....and never answered about the big race in Loen near your home town? So I still don't believe you. Aslo, cherry pick much. You choose the 600 case low on 11/18 over the 1700 high on 11/17? Why is that? Still upset about the Redskins game on 11/17 and you missed it? Dude, you are a liar through and through. In the end, the Sweden "wave 2" is going g to be much much smaller than all of the lock down nations.
11/09 - 593
11/10 - 562
11/12 - 717
11/13 - 688
11/14 - 518
11/15 - 532
11/16 - 548
11/17 - 600
18/11 - 656
11/19 - 671
You lead foilers need to get better at this cherrypicking game..
That 600 turns out to be so cherry picked that it's pretty much bang average for the last 10 days...
1700 that you are claiming though?
Ehm.. no 1700 anywhere in sight I'm afraid...
That 717 number from 8 days ago is peak for the entire pandemic btw, followed by 704 on november 2nd.
As I tried pointing out to you a few day ago, Norway looks to have pretty much reached it's peak. could be last week, could be this week, but in all likelyhood they will not reach 700 a day (on average).
Denmark (as I also tried telling you), looks to have peaked too on double Norway's number..
Not yet a 100% that either country will quell this wave yet, especially Denmark, but from the look of the curves and with both countries in semi-lock down, it looks like both countries will avoid seeing surges like you see in pretty much the rest of the EU.
Also--> The plateauing of newly infected in Sweden is probably best explained by Sweden being at capacity in their test taking capabilities. They've obviously introduced lockdown measures too, so logic dictates there is a flattening of the curve going on because of that, but in all likelyhood the underlying infection rate in Sweden is still spiking and will continue to do so this week before probably (or at least hopefully) peaking next week. The death numbers will probably rise for the next 3-4 weeks and I estimate they will plateau under the worst hit countries.
We don't know that yet though.
Thing is Lead Foil.. There are valid points you make from time to time (covid lifes are undoubtly priced at a huge premium of other lifes and for sure the reaction in most countries is somewhat (understandably so) overshadowed by fear), but it gets hidden by your anger (especially name calling) and refusal to see what's right in front of you. If you relax on the name calling and make sure how you portray reality would align closer to what the rest of us see when we look at the same data, then maybe we would be more inclined to listen to the rest of what you are saying too.
An angry person that call people names and twist data into a reality that no one else sees is unlikely to convince anyone of anything.