Sexism comes full circle: Birmingham 2022 brags it will give out more medals to women than men

If every other large multi-sport event has awarded more medals to men and this one awards two more to women, I think the story is more that than this one.

Sexism came full circle long before this. Just take a look at college graduation statistics over the past decade or more.

When we get to 100 medals for women for each 1 medal for a man. And then we have that regime in place for 100 years. Then, yeah, it would be time to think about the need for a Title IX for men.

joedirt wrote:

Sexism came full circle long before this. Just take a look at college graduation statistics over the past decade or more.

Yeah, because there are so many more hurdles for men to get into and graduate college than for women. SMH

Real Obvi wrote:

joedirt wrote:

Sexism came full circle long before this. Just take a look at college graduation statistics over the past decade or more.

Yeah, because there are so many more hurdles for men to get into and graduate college than for women. SMH

You don't think the fact that 76% of teachers are female has any impact on this? Do a google search for male scholarships and a search for female scholarships. Scholarships.com comes back with 36 entries for male scholarships and 286 entries for female scholarships. The system has over corrected in the past twenty years.

joedirte wrote:

Real Obvi wrote:

Yeah, because there are so many more hurdles for men to get into and graduate college than for women. SMH

You don't think the fact that 76% of teachers are female has any impact on this? Do a google search for male scholarships and a search for female scholarships. Scholarships.com comes back with 36 entries for male scholarships and 286 entries for female scholarships. The system has over corrected in the past twenty years.

I think that:

1) high school teachers are much closer to 50-50. The reason that overall there are more female teachers than male is because of K-8. Zero chance K-8 teacher ratios have anything to do with males and females going to and thriving in college.

2) the google search male/female scholarship numbers are absolutely trivial and certainly have no discernible impact on overall college numbers.

3) there are no significant impediments to getting a college education for either gender beyond the usual suspects - financial impediments, quality of education through high school and family history/support

The system is currently without non-trivial bias regarding M/F issues.

Real Obvi wrote:

I think that:

1) high school teachers are much closer to 50-50. The reason that overall there are more female teachers than male is because of K-8. Zero chance K-8 teacher ratios have anything to do with males and females going to and thriving in college.

2) the google search male/female scholarship numbers are absolutely trivial and certainly have no discernible impact on overall college numbers.

3) there are no significant impediments to getting a college education for either gender beyond the usual suspects - financial impediments, quality of education through high school and family history/support

The system is currently without non-trivial bias regarding M/F issues.

I prefer statistics as opposed to feelings. Primary educators were 87.1% female and secondary educators 62.6% female in 2018. Undergraduate degree distribution by gender was 56% female / 44% male in 2018. Scholarship numbers are significant as they provide opportunities to individuals to attend college. In lawsuits, gender based scholarships that favor females have come under increased scrutiny as they violate Title IX as females are no longer under represented in colleges (quite the opposite actually):

Your feelings are not supported by facts, in fact, quite the opposite is in evidence.

Real Obvi wrote:

joedirt wrote:

Sexism came full circle long before this. Just take a look at college graduation statistics over the past decade or more.

Yeah, because there are so many more hurdles for men to get into and graduate college than for women. SMH

same for black vs white vs asian?

high school xc coach wrote:

Real Obvi wrote:

Yeah, because there are so many more hurdles for men to get into and graduate college than for women. SMH

same for black vs white vs asian?

That one is much more nuanced.

On a formal level, blacks get advantages in admissions over whites and asians. So, a black person who grew up in a solid middle class household, attended good schools, K-12, with solid financial resources and a family background that includes support for and expectation of educational success will have an advantage.

On a less systemic level, blacks tend to grow up in homes that are not solid middle class, go to failing K-12 schools, lack financial resources and are more often without that family background that includes support for and expectation of educational success. For many, the institutional advantages (lower admission standards, etc.) fall short of making up for the more challenging realities of their early lives. As mentioned above, for others, it is the opposite.

So - much more nuanced.

You know nothing about my feelings. Therefore, any reference thereto is nothing more than you displaying your own ignorance.

Your own statistics back up what I already said - most of the disparity in overall teacher numbers come from K-8 rather than HS (87% vs 63%).

But, while we are on the subject of "feelings", perhaps you can tell me how your feelings have determined that having more female teachers is in any way relevant to M/F success in college.

Yawn.

The disparity between GPAs and standardized test scores point to a female grading bias in schools. Females are given better grades by their teachers who are predominantly female (have on average higher GPAs) in school, but have lower test scores (AP, SAT, ACT, etc.) than their male peers when gender bias is taken away. Males are more likely to pass an AP test than a female (60% vs 55%), have a higher average ACT score (20.95 vs 20.86) and have a higher average SAT score (1081 vs 1061), in spite of the lower GPA (3.07 vs 3.24 for college bound individuals). Males far outperform their female peers in math and science where there is less subjectivity in scoring. Our education system, which by and large is designed and run by females, is falling short in addressing the needs of males in education.