Adios Pro energy rod protrusion

25 miles, slammer runner, heavy, no rods yet. Stiff af though

Thanks for the reply, I'm just trying to see if people are talking about seeing the rods on the outsole or if they were implying a break through the actual foam.

The foam between the rods and the outsole rubber is clearly not enough. Too much concentrated force on the rods vs a plate which distributes it more evenly so the rods snap.

As for poking through the outsole? I don't believe this at all. Just think about the amount force and orientation of it for that too happen.

The rods would also need to snap in a way that the ends were pointed/sharp enough to then pierce through foam and rubber and the shoe needs to bend basically at a 90 degree angle. Explain to me how this happens in reality. I don't even think if you purposely snapped the rods and tried to push them through the outsole you could. Complete nonsense and reports of this happening and a mystery "video" being out there on youtube and "then being deleted" sounds like complete fake news.

I haven't seen this at all or heard of it...

I have only done 1 run, but my mind was blown. Something to try for sure. Yea, you can see the rods, even with less than 10 miles... but I agree with the post from earlier, it seems impossible for the rods to break through.

I'm an Adios and Boston fan - the Adios Pros are my first foray into the carbon shoe world.

I have 10 miles on them, so far, and you can see the thin black outlines of the 5 rods showing thru the bottom of both shoes. Doesn't mean the rods will break through, of course - but not thrilled at seeing this.

Lots to like about the shoes. Overall, however, I'm not fully bonding with them (yet). They feel heavy.

edu08 wrote:

I have only done 1 run, but my mind was blown. Something to try for sure. Yea, you can see the rods, even with less than 10 miles... but I agree with the post from earlier, it seems impossible for the rods to break through.

What blew your mind? I'm almost certain seeing the rods and being able to feel them from the bottom of the shoe is not a positive thing.

Alex Hutchinsong wrote:

I'm almost certain seeing the rods and being able to feel them from the bottom of the shoe is not a positive thing.

I don't see why it matters for longevity or performance, and no one's mentioned comfort, so that's probably not an issue either. You veins might bulge out your skin if you gave low body fat, but thats not a negative thing.

toooot wrote:

Alex Hutchinsong wrote:

I'm almost certain seeing the rods and being able to feel them from the bottom of the shoe is not a positive thing.

I don't see why it matters for longevity or performance, and no one's mentioned comfort, so that's probably not an issue either. You veins might bulge out your skin if you gave low body fat, but thats not a negative thing.

Um it matters for both? You can visually see the rods because they are physically too close to the bottom of the shoe. What that means is that they are very exposed to potentially many things that could break them at any time (a rock, the edge of a crack, edge of sidewalk) - things you run over all the time that you don't even think about.

If a rod breaks the performance is compromised and longevity ends. The example of veins and skin is silly. Would you be happy with veins bulging out of you skin if you worked a job where you constantly got little nicks/scratches/cuts on your skin?

Cutaways and drawings of the Next% show that the carbon plate in the forefoot is even closer to the bottom of those shoes than the rods in the Adios Pro. The Adios Pro is said in reviews to be stiffer, which is not the same as strength, but there's no reason to presume that the plate has greater toughness than the rods.